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re: No team north of 35 degrees N has won the national championship since Ohio State
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:13 am to DaleDenton
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:13 am to DaleDenton
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Stop with the racial bullshite
You really deny that those with African ancestry have a genetic athletic advantage in some sports over their Caucasian/Asian counterparts? I mean, I understand that correlation does not always imply causation, but damn...
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:14 am to CockRocket
Can't get a UGA person to post in the draft thread, but just look in this emeffer.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:19 am to Prof
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It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with culture.
Its both. American blacks, as a group, are more physically gifted than their white counterparts. They develop muscle mass much more easily, they have a more efficient metabolism, have more fast twitch muscle fibers especially in the quadriceps, hamstrings and calves, have a larger average lung capacity among athletes, etc.
Obviously, you have to train at something to be good at it. That being said, given the same level of training, a lot more black players will be great than white players because of the inherent physical advantage. Its why you'll never see a white guy doing what Lebron James or Deion Sanders can do.
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Jamaica produces an outrageous number of world class sprinters - it's not because they're black.
A lot of it has to do with being black, yeah.
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It's because in Jamaica, sprinting is on the level of SEC football (the entire Island is obsessed with it and every child wants to be a sprinter). In the Deep South, HS football is far more popular than elsewhere and to the point where it's obsessional compared to most places.
But again, put a white guy from Mobile into the same training regiment from a young age and he wont best the beat black Jamaican sprinters.
There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that there are physical differences. Whites in this country descend from Europeans, who for several thousand years bred in a society much less physically demanding than the one their African counterparts dealt with. Combine this with the under discussed but very prevalent breeding practices of European and American slavers for nearly 400 years and you get a distinct physical advantage among those with equivalent training.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 12:23 am
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:31 am to Roger Klarvin
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There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that there are physical differences.
Truth.
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Combine this with the under discussed but very prevalent breeding practices of European and American slavers for nearly 400 years and you get a distinct physical advantage among those with equivalent training.
Oh, I don't think you're supposed to say this, Roger.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:34 am to Yat27
Yeah, it got Jimmy the Greek fired. 
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:35 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:38 am to Roger Klarvin
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There are places in this country where there isnt a registered black person within 100 miles in any direction.
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registered black person
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registered
Dafuq? Uncle Sam handing out certificates now? Am I supposed to register as a White Guy or did they count me when I donated to NPR that one year?
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 12:40 am
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:47 am to KSGamecock
According to the most recent census, you dolt
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:48 am to Roger Klarvin
stoopid me.Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:49 am to KSGamecock
But yes, an NPR donation automatically outs you on "the list".
Posted on 5/10/14 at 12:54 am to Roger Klarvin
The psuedo-science - it hurts.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:01 am to Roger Klarvin
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Its both. American blacks, as a group, are more physically gifted than their white counterparts
I read a study several years ago. It basically said that the average black and average white were about the same when it came to avg. height and weight, but the bell curve for the African Americans was much flatter, meaning they had more on each end of the spectrum. I believe athletic ability would look about the same.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:09 am to Prof
Pseudo-science? There are DOZENS of large scale studies which show beyond any reasonable doubt that there is a significant difference between the races
Here is a fine example showing a dramatic difference in muscle mass and the ability to increase muscle mass quickly in blacks:
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Here's a good,article discussing the differences between West and East Africans, and between them and whites:
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Here is a fine example showing a dramatic difference in muscle mass and the ability to increase muscle mass quickly in blacks:
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Our review unequivocally shows that the FFB of blacks and whites differs significantly. It has been shown from cadaver and in vivo analyses that blacks have a greater BMC and BMD than do whites. These racial differences could substantially affect measures of body density and %BF. According to Lohman (63), a 2% change in the BMC of the body at a given body density could, theoretically, result in an 8% error in the estimation of %BF. Thus, the BMC and BMD of blacks must be considered when %BF is estimated.
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Additionally, it is apparent from the limited research that the protein portion of the FFB is greater in blacks than in whites. This difference in protein, along with the greater BMCs and BMDs observed in blacks than in whites, violates the assumptions of the traditional 2-component body-composition models of Siri (1) and Brozek et al (2). Thus, these models are probably invalid for estimating the %BF of black men.
Here's a good,article discussing the differences between West and East Africans, and between them and whites:
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Bouchard is persuaded that a large fraction of both West and East African blacks enjoy biological advantages for power or sprint events and endurance activities, respectively. "West Africans have more of the key anaerobic enzymes in their skeletal muscle, those enzymes being responsible for regenerating the energy in the muscle cell through anaerobic pathways," wrote Bouchard. We are talking here about a two-fold difference between a significant fraction of blacks from West Africa and whites from North America. East Africans, on the other hand, seem to have more ability to mobilize the energy stored in adipose tissue in other body depots and to use that energy for prolonged periods of exercise. The key point is that these biological characteristics are not unique to either West or East African blacks. These characteristics are seen in all populations, including whites. However, based on the limited number of studies available, there seems to be far more African Blacks with such characteristics than there are in other populations.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:13 am to CockRocket
Is Norman, OK north or south of that line
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:14 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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I read a study several years ago. It basically said that the average black and average white were about the same when it came to avg. height and weight, but the bell curve for the African Americans was much flatter, meaning they had more on each end of the spectrum. I believe athletic ability would look about the same.
This isnt about height and weight, its about muscle mass, biochemistry, etc.
Another interesting difference: Black people, especially black men, have a higher bone density. Most black people cant float on their backs like other races can and are also slower swimmers on average. Most lifeguard manuals make special note of being careful with black children and adolescents because, unlike white kids, they sink immediately when they go limp in water as opposed to whites who have to lose a significant volume of air from the lungs before they'll sink. A black child who cant swim can be on the bottom of a pool in a matter of seconds.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:17 am to BayouBengals03
Norman, OK is 35.216 degrees North.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:29 am to Roger Klarvin
So apparently the Rant turns into Stormfront after midnight. Disturbing.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:34 am to KSGamecock
Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:42 am to Roger Klarvin
Muscle mass is also a huge part of that. A 6 foot 200 lb person with 2% body fat will sink like a rock compared to the same size but 20% body fat. That's why some of the best athletes in the world can't swim.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 6:57 am to DecaturAU
I have been saying the same thing for a while, except I use I-40 as the line. The bullshite Ohio St title is the only one by a team north of that road in the BCS era (the Tenn and OU campuses are just south of it). Here are some reasons listed by an Omaha sportswriter three years ago:
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NO. 1: A GRAND FINALE - The SEC was the first to have a conference championship and it raised the level of competition.
NO. 2: A NATIONAL STAGE - The CBS contract gives the SEC unmatched exposure.
NO. 3: 'THE ACQUISITION OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY' - SEC Coaches are paid more and they stay longer.
NO. 4: BROKEN PROMISES - Some SEC schools over-sign their recruiting classes.
NO. 5: STICKING TO DEFENSE - The SEC teams put many good athletes on defense while other conferences put almost all of their best athletes on offense.
NO. 6: A GREAT MIGRATION - The South is a growing area of the country in both population and the economy.
ADDITIONAL...
The BCS - Big 10 teams can't win titles by simply beating the Pac 10 champ in the Rose Bowl anymore.
The fall of Miami and Florida State
High school spring football
Educational improvements in the South
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