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re: Nick Saban vs. Bear Bryant - Who is Better?

Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:26 am to
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:26 am to
Lets just say two of the greatest ever and call it a tie.

Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:30 am to
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You realize bear Bryant avoided playing Johnny Vaught at all costs ? He would not play him!
Bear Bryant was 5-2 against Vaught and 12-3 against Ole Miss while at Bama.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:31 am to
Saban, and it's not even close. Bear had 200 scholarship players and wasn't as dominant. Saban is in comparison with Belichik (sp?) right now with regards to levels. My point is, under all the rules and regulations of today, to do what he is doing is ridiculous. And I can't stand the man.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79128 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:33 am to
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Neither could win back to back undisputed sec and national titles. When les miles does win undisputed sec and national titles back to back he will be better than both.



This is the weirdest schtick I've ever seen on this board. 97 posts of this statement
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:39 am to
The scared drunk would not play him.

Avoided him like sobriety and not beating his wife
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:39 am to
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Bear had 200 scholarship players and wasn't as dominant



Ok..lol. Bryant had the same amount of Scholarship players as everyone else did in his day. There wasn't some rule that said, " Bryant can have 200 players, everyone else just gets 100".
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:40 am to
As far as dominant? He won 13 or 14 SEC Championships and 6 National Titles and was robbed of 2 more.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:41 am to
Played him in 64,65,66,67,68,69 and 70
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:41 am to
It is so hard to compare coaching.

The game has changed so much.

On the one hand, Bryant could recruit many more players.

On the other hand, he was at the mercy of voters to determine championships.

I almost think you cannot really compare college coaches from different eras.

Of this era, I would say Saban is the best.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64508 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:42 am to
I honestly think Saban's run is more impressive. With all the rules in place that weren't when Bear was the coach and how many more programs field competitive teams every year, Saban having the success he has is much more difficult
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:44 am to
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That's 15 playoff appearances. In my opinion, he would have at least 10 NC's


Bryant was a .500 bowl coach. Considering you have to win twice in the playoffs, I give him 4 championships. Less that bama claims he won now.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64508 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:45 am to
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On the other hand, he was at the mercy of voters to determine championships.


coaches have always been under the mercy of voters to win championships and still are
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:45 am to
Who is whose OC? If Mal Moore is Bears OC, and Kiffin is Sabans, then Saban arse rapes Bear.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:47 am to
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coaches have always been under the mercy of voters to win championships and still are


While this is true, it is not nearly to the extent it once was.

And I have a feeling it will be going to eight teams in the next ten years.
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1247 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:50 am to
All things being equal it's much harder now due to restrictions in place with scholarships and gift ect. Coach Bryant was like a god. BOTH are driven to be successful. Different Era hard to compare. BRYANT didn't haft to deal with the BS saban has to. I guess Saban for what he has accomplished the last 9 yrs.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64508 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:54 am to
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While this is true, it is not nearly to the extent it once was.

And I have a feeling it will be going to eight teams in the next ten years.

well, if you think about it, programs during bear's tenure also had the benefit of having two different polls in which they could win a national title as well
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:56 am to
Great coaches/leaders would be great in any era and under any circumstances and conditions.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:59 am to
It's almost impossible to compare because the landscape of football has changed so much.

The era Bryant coached vs. the era Saban coaches in have a vastly different set of circumstances.

They both were the best coaches of their era.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:59 am to
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Saban didn't have Robert Neyland to "Teach him everything he knows" like Bear did.



So your saying great coaches and players have people that taught them things about the game along the way in their career? How freaking observant of you. That doesn't mean they weren't ultimately better than their teachers.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Saban didn't have Robert Neyland to "Teach him everything he knows" like Bear did.

Didn't Royal or someone else teach him the wishbone?
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