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re: NFL.com Top 15 Coaches in College Football

Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:30 am to
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:30 am to
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Les Miles isn't a top 15 coach. He's an offensive coach that consistently fields bad/inept offenses.



Is that why he is the only coach in SEC History to have (2) 1,000yrd+ receivers, 1,000yrd+ rusher, and a 3,000yrd+ QB in a single season? Oh he also fielded 4 rookies that started in NFL, one making offensive rookie of the year and making the cover of Madden?

Do you even high school coach baw?
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 7:31 am
Posted by Dr_Tim_Whatley
Member since Jun 2014
428 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:41 am to
Im shocked people are hating on Fuente. He won 10 games in Memphis. Anytime that is done, regardless of situatuon, that is a great job.

He did it in year 3, when he took over the program 2 years ago, the job was as much of a dumpster fire as you'll ever find. Porter had left talent in spots on defense, but other than that, an absolute mess.

I can say confidently I'd rather have fuente over shaw, spurrier, and richrod.

Ranking HCs that have done great things in one place and mediocre things other places like spurrier, cutcliffe, and richrod is always a weird spot. How much do you weigh their lackluster results vs the good?
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 7:43 am
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:25 am to
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I think Gus should be rated higher


Based on what? He has been a major college head coach for two seasons. One season was very good and nearly great and one was disappointing. I would say the jury is still out until he becomes a consistent winner.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3495 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:41 am to
Maybe the single worst list I have seen this off-season
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65029 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:48 am to
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LSU had them beat. That is what matters.


If LSU had Alabama beat how come the win registered in Alabama's column and not LSU's?

Contrary to popular belief, football is a 60-minute game. LSU was ahead in the game through about 59 minutes. Unfortunately for them they forgot to play football for the remaining 60 seconds.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 8:59 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:08 am to
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The fact that les miles is not on that list is an absolute joke. Les Miles makes less poor in-game decisions than Saban.


Les is 3-6 vs. Saban. The days of him being comparable passed in 2012.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:09 am
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30867 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:18 am to
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I think Gus should be rated higher than this but can't say I disagree with much otherwise.


Well, his body of work as a head coach is significantly smaller than most on that list. That's probably the main reason. Also, winning at Auburn isn't as hard as winning at some of the other places.
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:19 am to
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Les Miles makes less poor in-game decisions than Saban.


So he loses the games before they're played due to poor planning?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65029 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:26 am to
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Is that why he is the only coach in SEC History to have (2) 1,000yrd+ receivers, 1,000yrd+ rusher, and a 3,000yrd+ QB in a single season? Oh he also fielded 4 rookies that started in NFL, one making offensive rookie of the year and making the cover of Madden?



And yet couldn't win the SEC West.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:36 am to
Pinkel is deserving. He does more with less.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24902 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

LSU had them beat. That is what matters.


quote:

wins and losses are empty, hollow statistics


Yeah, who gives a shite who wins.

Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:08 am to
Having Justin Fuente on that list and not having Hugh Freeze is dumb since they I herited similar situations and Freeze has a winning record AND turned around a team while the West was at its peak
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:49 am to
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And yet couldn't win the SEC West.


And Bama has a NFL loaded Roster and gets embarrassed by Big Game Bob Big12 and Big 10 teams in prime time.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 10:50 am
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18498 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:51 am to
Les said he gives zero fricks about being on a list.
Posted by CarolinaCock
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:51 am to
First off I don't know who Fuente is. All I know is that spurrier won the Acc at duke now I suppose that is mediocre to you.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5171 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:17 am to
Not sure why peeps are arguing who is better between Les and Saban... As things stand right now Saban has done better.

The thing that is ridiculous is that Les is not on the top 15 list at all. Man averages 10 wins/year in the SEC West over a 10 year span. Has a natty and played for another. HAS NEVER LOST in an OOC regular season game in 10 years, despite playing some very good competition. Worst season is 8 wins.

But I hope the other SEC coaches are sleeping on Miles like this writer is. I think this year could be really special if we get the good bounces
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:36 am to
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Pinkel is deserving. He does more with less.


True, but Snyder is the real king of "more with less". He owes Pinkel, I hate to say.

No Les? Briles, Shaw and Cutcliffe are a little high. OBC is way too low.

No Stoops, Gundy or Sumlin. Funny!
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65029 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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And Bama has a NFL loaded Roster


Just like LSU.

We still won the SEC and were up 21-6 on the eventual national champs before we let the game get away from us. I would hardly call 42-35 getting "embarrassed" and the same goes for the loss to OU. We were down 38-31 when McCarron fumbled the ball deep in our own territory.

The difference is, Saban puts the team in a position to compete for national championships. Miles, despite top five/top ten recruiting classes every year, can't win the SEC West.



Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:10 pm to
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I would hardly call 42-35 getting "embarrassed" and the same goes for the loss to OU.


OU's talent is not on the same planet as Bama and lost to a coach that is notorious for the inability to win in the post season.

It was supposed to be a blowout by Bama.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Miles, despite top five/top ten recruiting classes every year, can't win the SEC West.


Saban - SEC Champion - 3

Miles - SEC Champion - 2



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