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re: NFL Execs: Overworked Bama Players Overvalued in Draft

Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37598 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Do you think that will translate into more hardware for LSU?


It's all they have..its certainly not chamionships or victories over Bama
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:30 pm to
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I mean if you put the most talent into the NFL, then LSU is underachieving at a massive rate. You shouldnt lose a game according to dreaux.
Bingo!! This is what I'm driving at. It's gotta be very shitty coaching or this entire scenario is a load of crap!..which is it?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:31 pm to
How are Bama players any more "overworked" than any other SEC team's players? There are rules about this. The whole premise of the article is fantasy.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:32 pm to
I don't have link to Mike Mayock and others stating on television while talking about the draft, but he did. I saw it. If you want to pretend he didn't and I am lying, then fine. That's your prerogative.
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:39 pm to
You're the one with the number 1 recruiting class every year; according to the recruiting experts, LSU can only recruit a top 5 once every few years, and never number 1. Sounds to me like we are coaching them up and you just plug in 5 stars. You should win every game with the number 1 class 8 years in a row. Add to the fact Saban keeps his upperclassmen and Miles leave early for the NFL.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:48 pm to
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I don't have link to Mike Mayock and others stating on television while talking about the draft, but he did. I saw it. If you want to pretend he didn't and I am lying, then fine. That's your prerogative.
Odd how he values Alabama talent so highly while talking them down on tv, huh?


"Five Alabama players in Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects list"

Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:54 pm to
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You're the one with the number 1 recruiting class every year; according to the recruiting experts, LSU can only recruit a top 5 once every few years, and never number 1. Sounds to me like we are coaching them up and you just plug in 5 stars. You should win every game with the number 1 class 8 years in a row. Add to the fact Saban keeps his upperclassmen and Miles leave early for the NFL.


That is ridiculous and you know it. Several factors go into wins and losses. Some of it is Xs and Os, some of it is Jimmies and Joes, and some of it is just stars aligning.

The number one recruiting class projects how they think someone might do based on camps, etc. It is an inexact science and doesn't account for human error. For example, five star athlete Eddie Williams decides that he wants to be a tPOS. Is that Saban's fault?
Perhaps, but he can't babysit 100 kids.

It also doesn't account for injury. Your starting center or left tackle goes down in a game you're going to be fricked. I don't care if there is a four star behind him if the four star isn't comfortable with the scheme. Plus you go from kids who might face a couple D1 talents in high school to teams that are stacked with D1 talent. There is going to be an adjustment.

Frankly I think Saban has done quite well with 3 titles in 5 years. What has Miles done lately?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:57 pm to
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You're the one with the number 1 recruiting class every year; according to the recruiting experts, LSU can only recruit a top 5 once every few years, and never number 1. Sounds to me like we are coaching them up and you just plug in 5 stars. You should win every game with the number 1 class 8 years in a row. Add to the fact Saban keeps his upperclassmen and Miles leave early for the NFL.
Are you actually serious? First, what group of folks are contending that Alabama players in the NFL are inferior? Lastly, Alabama loses a ton of their players to the early draft...where did you get that crap from?
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12921 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:58 pm to
And it's just harder when, you know, flags are thrown and shite.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:59 pm to
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You should win every game with the number 1 class 8 years in a row.
They certainly win more than anyone else.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:01 pm to
...and the schedules are fair..left that out.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15388 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:01 pm to
As stated before. Six months ago Roland McClain was a bust. Right now he is the odds on favorite to win NFL Comeback Player of the Year. He is going by some Bama players that have been in the league less than three years
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:14 pm to
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How many Cam Newtons has Auburn bought?
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fify
seriously? you were on the verge of the death penalty for buying players. but obviously that all stopped overnight and has nothing to do with your recruiting that past few years.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:18 pm to
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seriously? you were on the verge of the death penalty for buying players. but obviously that all stopped overnight and has nothing to do with your recruiting that past few years.


How much did LSU pay Patrick Peterson?

It was a solid investment.

How about Leonard Fournette or Malachi Dupre? Are you telling me that they turned down thousands of dollars to live in red stick?
Posted by Skeeterpop
Member since Oct 2014
421 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:19 pm to
You obviously dont get out much. I challenge you to check out a few Saints Message board. Try going in there saying Mark Ingram Sucks. You probably will not last long. There are pages and pages of Saints Boards right now screaming for the Saints to sign Ingram to a new contract. Many of which also feel his success this year and end of last year will put him out of their price range to resign.

Keep up to date when you jump on the nearest bandwagon and make sure it even has wheels. Because the one you just hopped on is not going anywhere!
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:20 pm to
They turned down your money fo sho.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:23 pm to
Anybody who thinks Ingram will be able to get a huge contract is either a moron or doesn't follow the league. He still has well under two thousand yards rushing in his entire career despite playing in the league 4 or 5 years. For all the talk about how well he has played this year, he still only has 338 yards rushing halfway through the season. More productive running backs were only able to garner contracts worth two or three million per year last year in free agency
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:26 pm to
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They turned down your money fo sho.


Lulz. I'm sure that the REC was offering them tons of cash and they turned it down for the opportunity to play in the Outback Bowl. If we're cheating then you are as well. Otherwise we would never lose a recruiting battle because I don't know of any 18 year old that will turn down $80,000 to live as a broke college student.

I hate Auburn as much as the next guy but if they offered me thousands of dollars on top of my scholarship I'd be yelling "War Eagle!"
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:35 pm to
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seriously? you were on the verge of the death penalty for buying players. but obviously that all stopped overnight and has nothing to do with your recruiting that past few years.
Do you really believe that Alabama/Saban has to pay a kid to come play football at the University of Alabama?...really, do you believe that?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:36 pm to
are you just randomly naming good LSU players? because what i said is factually true, you were on the verge of the death penalty for buying players, don't make excuses for what you do by pretending everyone else is just as corrupt.
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