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re: NFL doesnt like players from gimmick offenses

Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:20 pm to
I don't think spread WRs are as prepared for the NFL as Pro Style WRs, and I think NFL GMs realise this, but yeah if a spread WR has off the chart measurables they will still be drafted highly.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:21 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:21 pm to
So if Amari Cooper was put into a spread offense then he wouldn't be drafted high?
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:22 pm to
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With the right measurables, it doesn't matter what offense a WR played in, outside of a run option offense.
Georgia Tech has had Demaryius Thomas drafted in the 1st round and Stephen Hill drafted in the 2nd round. So, even then, it doesn't really matter. If they can play, they'll get found.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:24 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
Alabama ran the spread maybe 20% of the time last year.Would be considered a multiple offense, but definitely was a lot more pro style than spread.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
Frank Broyle's teams were labeled as a "spread" offense in the 60s because he has two WRs split out wide, at times.

Its an over used catch all term.

There isn't a debate the NFL is leery of QBs/Centers/Etc who have never made a pre-snap read HS-College. There are "good" QBs in college who do not know how to read a defensive coverage.

The NFL isn't into the hole train on the job thing except in few instances, even then only a couple year span is given for "development".
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Georgia Tech has has Demaryius Thomas drafted in the 1st round and Stephen Hill drafted in the 2nd round. So, even then, it doesn't really matter. If they can play, they'll get found.


I think Megatron played in the option his last year or two there iirc.

ETA: NVM, his last year was 2007, they went to the option in 2008.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 9:25 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:27 pm to
If Bryce Petty had played for a pro style team he would've been drafted a lot higher.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:30 pm to
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If Bryce Petty had played for a pro style team he would've been drafted a lot higher.


He he was taught how to read coverages, call pre-snap audibles, make progression reads over the entire span of the field instead of condensed sections, he would have been drafted a lot higher.

Plenty of coaches failed him from his 7th grade - college years.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:35 pm to
He was a spread QB in HS and College, makes sense.
Posted by DawgRff
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:52 pm to
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Georgia Tech has had Demaryius Thomas drafted in the 1st round and Stephen Hill drafted in the 2nd round. So, even then, it doesn't really matter. If they can play, they'll get found.


Georgia Tech also had 2 WR's and a linemen taken in this years draft.......so this thread is shite
Posted by tom
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 9:58 pm to
NFL teams are as conservative as hell... how do you think the same teams draft so incredibly well every year?
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 10:09 pm to
Have you actually seen Minnesota or Nebraska play recently?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 10:11 pm to
How many RBs and QBs have they had drafted since 08?
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:49 pm to
Spread offense players have traditionally either struggled, underachieved, or flat out sucked in the NFL.

It's hard to tell if they put up big numbers in college because they are actually great players or because of the scheme/system.

A pro-style player who puts up big numbers is much more likely to be a legit player.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:02 pm to
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26.Breshad Perriman WR UCF


Wut. UCF runs one of the most boring offenses ever.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:17 pm to
Of course the NFL wants the best players regardless of scheme, but if talent is about equal, of course they would prefer a QB who has experience with pro progressions, a RB with experience in pass protection, WRs who have run full route trees and option routes, TEs with experience as in-line blockers, etc. It's foolish to act like it doesn't matter at all.
Posted by gussler
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:43 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:45 pm to
Bama ran all straight I or 2 back last year. No hurry up at all.

They just put a TE and FB in and huddled all year. I remember that.

They certainly did not go 4 wide and throw hitches the first 6 plays of SECCG.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Bama ran all straight I or 2 back last year. No hurry up at all.

They just put a TE and FB in and huddled all year. I remember that.

They certainly did not go 4 wide and throw hitches the first 6 plays of SECCG.


What difference does the first 6 plays of a game have on the entire play of a season or career for a player at position for a school?

You act as if NFL teams do not run two minute drills at the end of halves and do not run scripts of plays to open halves.

There is not need to be defensive over a/your/others having a coach with a scheme/system in place that does not prepare players for the NFL via what the NFL wants out of their players. NFL teams do not want to take on several projects and teach them the nuances of the game that they value, one because of the limited number of roster spots allowed and the other because of the large number of athletes available means they do not have too.

I'm not sure if its just an inferiority complex that causes some of your to take it so personally that your favorite team doesn't prepare your players at certain positions to be NFL ready. As a fan of a college team it shouldn't matter a great deal to you that you players find success outside of college in the sport as long as they find success in college playing the sport.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 8:43 pm to
When did nebraskas offense become pro style?
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