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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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All of the NCAA's rules are to even out the playing field in recruiting. For example the athletic dorm issue. If they allowed athlete only dorms then what is going to stop any school in the SEC to build an athletic dorm so luxurious it will make Life Styles of The Rich and Famous jealous, but not every school can afford to do so. Now richer schools can feed players lobster and filet, but smaller schools can't.
Exactly and we already go as far as we dare with primarily athletic luxury dorms that make regular student dorms look poor as hell, knowing full well that if we go too far it would eventually get to the point where regular students would be mad and rightfully so given how much tuition is nowadays.
These are also the things no one wants to talk about though and the things the "PAY ATHLETES!!" crowd ignore. So much money is spent on athletes already and when you add in things like athletic dorms even with their small number of regular students and meals and all those other things that aren't counted, the amount of benefits they're already getting is mind-boggling high. Yes they work hard and yes for some athletes at a tiny number of very select schools they play for teams that bring in revenue but even then most of what is brought in is spent on athletes either through facilities, housing, food, training costs, and coaches. Those top notch coaches, facilities, nutritionists, weight rooms, doctors, sports therapists, etc. develop elite athletes and without them even the most talented 5* wouldn't fare well even against lower tier talent or lower level FCS competition that still spend outrageous amounts to develop their athletes regarldess of whether it's walk-on Joe or JFF (and d-leagues aren't gonna invest squat in walk-on Joe or even much on 4* star Joe if he's not bringing in revenue or playing like a Heisman Trophy winner).
There is a reason that both the NFL and most players say the hardest transition is from high school to college not college to the NFL. Scouts will find you whether you play in the SEC or DII and DIII but when they evaluate a DII or DIII player what they're looking at isn't how good he is or how talented he is but whether or not they believe he can handle the extra work and preparation required for a DII or DIII rookie transitioning from those lower levels to the NFL. With players from DI schools, especially BCS schools, it's practically a given that they're capable of transitioning as they're 90 percent there with training, coaching, and the overall grind.
A lot of NCAA rules that seem silly on the surface are based on evening the playing field as much as they can while not taking away from the haves to do it. The food restrictions were an example of that. While I agree that the NCAA system is broken, people do need to understand why some of the things that sound so crazy are there. It would help us figure out how best to fix it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:59 am to Prof
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Exactly and we already go as far as we dare with primarily athletic luxury dorms that make regular student dorms look poor as hell, knowing full well that if we go too far it would eventually get to the point where regular students would be mad and rightfully so given how much tuition is nowadays.
These are also the things no one wants to talk about though and the things the "PAY ATHLETES!!" crowd ignore. So much money is spent on athletes already and when you add in things like athletic dorms even with their small number of regular students and meals and all those other things that aren't counted, the amount of benefits they're already getting is mind-boggling high. Yes they work hard and yes for some athletes at a tiny number of very select schools they play for teams that bring in revenue but even then most of what is brought in is spent on athletes either through facilities, housing, food, training costs, and coaches. Those top notch coaches, facilities, nutritionists, weight rooms, doctors, sports therapists, etc. develop elite athletes and without them even the most talented 5* wouldn't fare well even against lower tier talent or lower level FCS competition that still spend outrageous amounts to develop their athletes regarldess of whether it's walk-on Joe or JFF (and d-leagues aren't gonna invest squat in walk-on Joe or even much on 4* star Joe if he's not bringing in revenue or playing like a Heisman Trophy winner).
There is a reason that both the NFL and most players say the hardest transition is from high school to college not college to the NFL. Scouts will find you whether you play in the SEC or DII and DIII but when they evaluate a DII or DIII player what they're looking at isn't how good he is or how talented he is but whether or not they believe he can handle the extra work and preparation required for a DII or DIII rookie transitioning from those lower levels to the NFL. With players from DI schools, especially BCS schools, it's practically a given that they're capable of transitioning as they're 90 percent there with training, coaching, and the overall grind.
A lot of NCAA rules that seem silly on the surface are based on evening the playing field as much as they can while not taking away from the haves to do it. The food restrictions were an example of that. While I agree that the NCAA system is broken, people do need to understand why some of the things that sound so crazy are there. It would help us figure out how best to fix it.
This guy gets it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:05 am to Prof
While you make some good points, we're at the threshold of the bigger conferences separating from the smaller ones.
The smaller conferences are holding the bigger ones back, and costing them money to boot. I'm all for sharing the wealth, but not for giving it away gratis.
We're honestly at the point where the bigger conferences have nothing to gain by staying.
The smaller conferences are holding the bigger ones back, and costing them money to boot. I'm all for sharing the wealth, but not for giving it away gratis.
We're honestly at the point where the bigger conferences have nothing to gain by staying.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:07 am to Prof
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So much money is spent on athletes already
Exactly. I have a friend who wsa trying to get drafted for MLB and went to IMG Academy and dropped some 30-50k for the year to get elite training and medical support.
I believe revenue sports should be exempted from Title IX, schollies should cover total cost of attendance and there should be no restriction on draft eligibility.
If that happens, nobody should be able to bitch
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