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Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:49 am to Kcoyote
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:49 am to Kcoyote
didn't barely beat lousville in the stats. dominated them. played conservative maybe but controlled the game. that was on the road too, first game without our top WR.
most ppl don't know this...our top experience NFL bound WR has been out since the first game.
most ppl don't know this...our top experience NFL bound WR has been out since the first game.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:51 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:52 am to Jamie Lannister
Man those sound like excuses. You're allowed to have them but Alabama isn't?
Perhaps having our center playing hurt, at the end of the 8 hardest weeks in college football this year, a rivalry game, and a trap game before the biggest test of the season could be used to fill that excuse box.
Perhaps having our center playing hurt, at the end of the 8 hardest weeks in college football this year, a rivalry game, and a trap game before the biggest test of the season could be used to fill that excuse box.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:53 am to Kcoyote
you have a loss at home to an unranked team and another close one at home and act like you should be ranked above Clemson. it is stupid. i think you should be thankful to make the playoffs at all
big difference to a 'close' game on the road, that Clem won. Clemson dominated Lville in the trenches.
the point is, it makes no sense for ppl to say Bama would 'skull drag' and 'pistol whip' Clemson this year. your team isn't dominant and has not faced a star QB
you lost to the team with the best QB you've seen, an ex Clemson player. lol
big difference to a 'close' game on the road, that Clem won. Clemson dominated Lville in the trenches.
the point is, it makes no sense for ppl to say Bama would 'skull drag' and 'pistol whip' Clemson this year. your team isn't dominant and has not faced a star QB
you lost to the team with the best QB you've seen, an ex Clemson player. lol
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:57 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:55 am to Jamie Lannister
And Alabama outgained Ole Miss.
Again, if you want to base your claims on Alabama based on the Ole Miss game, you're going to have a bad time predicting future outcomes.
Also basing predictions on losing at home for Alabama doesn't really matter in the god damn slightest, because Alabama plays one more game at home this year. A barn-burner against Charleston Southern.
Or are you just trying to downplay Bama in any way possible instead of actually focusing on a possible playoff matchup
Again, if you want to base your claims on Alabama based on the Ole Miss game, you're going to have a bad time predicting future outcomes.
Also basing predictions on losing at home for Alabama doesn't really matter in the god damn slightest, because Alabama plays one more game at home this year. A barn-burner against Charleston Southern.
Or are you just trying to downplay Bama in any way possible instead of actually focusing on a possible playoff matchup
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:57 am to Kcoyote
i don't think Bama is going to win the West this year.
LSU is going to steal it i think.
Bama will have 2 losses
Coker can't take you to the promise land.
Update: Looking at LSU schedule, don't think they will win it. i think they could actually lose out. lol My opinion Arky is much better than them on offense
LSU is going to steal it i think.
Bama will have 2 losses
Coker can't take you to the promise land.
Update: Looking at LSU schedule, don't think they will win it. i think they could actually lose out. lol My opinion Arky is much better than them on offense
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:04 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:00 am to Jamie Lannister
That's fair to think, but why exactly?
MSU has faced very lowly competition thus far, and what they have faced, they've lost to. They lost to LSU, they also lost to Texas A&M, a team you called terrible just a moment ago. Lost by two touchdowns in fact.
What in the world would make you think Alabama loses this game, other than the fact that you just cannot and will not be convinced that Alabama is any good this year because Coker has 300 less yards than your all-world QB?
MSU has faced very lowly competition thus far, and what they have faced, they've lost to. They lost to LSU, they also lost to Texas A&M, a team you called terrible just a moment ago. Lost by two touchdowns in fact.
What in the world would make you think Alabama loses this game, other than the fact that you just cannot and will not be convinced that Alabama is any good this year because Coker has 300 less yards than your all-world QB?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:07 am to Kcoyote
i've always rooted for MSU for some reason, cuz nobody ever gives them any love, and Dr Clemson wanted Clem modeled after MSU, believe it or not. lol
I think MSU has improved on offense the past few weeks. and Auburn looks al ittle better too.
i think Bama can lose 1 of those.
Ole Miss may end up taking the division and then the confernce. Does a 3 loss Ole miss team that beats Florida have a shot at the playoff?
or would they give the spot to Bama anyway b/c they only had 2 losses.
let's face it, ppl are sick of Bama. need some new blood in the playoffs.
ppl who always say SEC is best conference never seem to notice Bama kind of always wins the conference save a fluke year from Auburn now and then. lol Seems like if SEC is as competitive as claimed, you would have greater variety of teams winnning the SEC title
I think MSU has improved on offense the past few weeks. and Auburn looks al ittle better too.
i think Bama can lose 1 of those.
Ole Miss may end up taking the division and then the confernce. Does a 3 loss Ole miss team that beats Florida have a shot at the playoff?
or would they give the spot to Bama anyway b/c they only had 2 losses.
let's face it, ppl are sick of Bama. need some new blood in the playoffs.
ppl who always say SEC is best conference never seem to notice Bama kind of always wins the conference save a fluke year from Auburn now and then. lol Seems like if SEC is as competitive as claimed, you would have greater variety of teams winnning the SEC title
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:12 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:10 am to Jamie Lannister
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Ole Miss may end up taking the division and then the confernce.
How? OM just lost to Arky. They would have to win against MSU and LSU while having Bama lose to MSU or Auburn, and having LSU lose 2/3. If it were a three way, 2 loss tie between OM, ALA, LSU, LSU would go to the conference title game based off of the highest rank in the poll.
And there's the possibility MSU would be in there too in some combination. Basically, it is nearly impossible for OM to get to the conference championship game.
Also, clearly people are not sick of watching Alabama play, they garner the highest ratings whenever they play a ranked team. You may be sick of them, but the evidence would point otherwise.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:12 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:15 am to Kcoyote
i believe that scenario can take place and, in fact, is likely to take place. i've already said I can see LSU losing out. they really just started the meat of their schedule this week and nobody knows for sure how good they are. they layed an egg in the bama game so losing another 2 doesn't seem impossible.
I like Ole Miss in their two remaining games,and I think Bama drops 1 of 2.
high ratings doesn't mean people want bama in the playoffs. Ppl will groan if Bama ends up in playoffs despite not winning SEC b/c Ole Miss had 3 total losses. but maybe Ole Miss would jump Bama in the playoff rankings if they beat Florida even with the extra loss.
the good thing about the playoffs is most years it will force a SEC team to beat two good OOC teams to win it all.
i used 2 think SEC bias was probably a bit exxaggerrated but when you see a one loss Bama team in playoffs vs undefeated teams like Oklahoam State and Iowa, hard not to believe it is real
do the weekly playoff rankings include an analysis of the rest of their schedule? A projection? Or it is only the results so far in the season.
I like Ole Miss in their two remaining games,and I think Bama drops 1 of 2.
high ratings doesn't mean people want bama in the playoffs. Ppl will groan if Bama ends up in playoffs despite not winning SEC b/c Ole Miss had 3 total losses. but maybe Ole Miss would jump Bama in the playoff rankings if they beat Florida even with the extra loss.
the good thing about the playoffs is most years it will force a SEC team to beat two good OOC teams to win it all.
i used 2 think SEC bias was probably a bit exxaggerrated but when you see a one loss Bama team in playoffs vs undefeated teams like Oklahoam State and Iowa, hard not to believe it is real
do the weekly playoff rankings include an analysis of the rest of their schedule? A projection? Or it is only the results so far in the season.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:22 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:21 am to Jamie Lannister
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i believe that scenario can take place and, in fact, is likely to take place.
You can believe that, but every statistical measure would say you're wrong to think that is the most likely route here, especially because a three way tie breaker would not favor Ole Miss because of their OOC loss.
Also, if Alabama wins out, do they deserve to be in the playoff in your mind?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:25 am to Kcoyote
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Also, if Alabama wins out, do they deserve to be in the playoff in your mind?
they'll be in no matter what. lol
but I think if Oklahoma wins out, they would have as solid a case as Bama does, except no conference championship game. If Oklahoma State beats Baylor and Okohhoama and goes undefeated, after beating TCU, should they not get in?
i personally don't think the best team in country would ever lose at home. i would have put TCU in the final 4 last year b/c they had a better loss than Ohio State. Much better loss. lol
it would help a lot if football season was about 4-5 games longer, with more games out of conference.
i think FL will be beat by SC this week and given how bad the East is this year, would beating Florida in title game really help the resume.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:31 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:30 am to Jamie Lannister
Yes Ok State should get in. They'd probably get in before ND if they win out. Just like Baylor most likely would if they went undefeated.
However, just stacking unbeatens is not right in the slightest, as the SOS for someone like OK State to Bama before this weekend was just laughable. Same goes with OSU.
But I guess Houston is a better team than Alabama because they've never lost at home either.
Also there are a total of 6 unbeatens, two of them have guaranteed losses (either Iowa or OSU, and either Baylor of OK State), and one of them is Houston.
So essentially at the end if EVERYTHING goes exactly according to plan and no unexpected losses occur, you have three realistic teams that could make the playoff and be unbeaten. Why in the world should a one loss Bama team with the toughest strength of schedule not be in that group? Who deserves it more?
However, just stacking unbeatens is not right in the slightest, as the SOS for someone like OK State to Bama before this weekend was just laughable. Same goes with OSU.
But I guess Houston is a better team than Alabama because they've never lost at home either.
Also there are a total of 6 unbeatens, two of them have guaranteed losses (either Iowa or OSU, and either Baylor of OK State), and one of them is Houston.
So essentially at the end if EVERYTHING goes exactly according to plan and no unexpected losses occur, you have three realistic teams that could make the playoff and be unbeaten. Why in the world should a one loss Bama team with the toughest strength of schedule not be in that group? Who deserves it more?
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:35 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:36 am to Kcoyote
that's true.
bama does have the win over Wiscy which i forget about. Wiscy is generally about the 3rd best program in the big 10.
i question how tough Bama's schedule has been. you are saying it is the toughest but is it. Ark's defense is terrible, Texas AM can't score, Ole Miss is ok but can't run the ball well and their defense is overrated, LSU is 1-D, Auburn doesn't look good, etc. Wiscy is a solid OOC win but they don't look like a juggarnaut.
i also think there is a good chance the ACC swept their instate SEC rivals against this year, or at least go 3-1. and ppl remember SEC west laying a collective egg in bowl games last year after all the hype
bama does have the win over Wiscy which i forget about. Wiscy is generally about the 3rd best program in the big 10.
i question how tough Bama's schedule has been. you are saying it is the toughest but is it. Ark's defense is terrible, Texas AM can't score, Ole Miss is ok but can't run the ball well and their defense is overrated, LSU is 1-D, Auburn doesn't look good, etc. Wiscy is a solid OOC win but they don't look like a juggarnaut.
i also think there is a good chance the ACC swept their instate SEC rivals against this year, or at least go 3-1. and ppl remember SEC west laying a collective egg in bowl games last year after all the hype
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:45 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:39 am to Jamie Lannister
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they lost to Ole Miss at home, and barely beat a 4 loss am at home but they will skull drag Clemson and ND, both teams that have much better QBs and WRs?
Jaime stayed away from meth today. Congrats on the first step.
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LSU lost to Alabama bad because you don't a QB and they could stack up against the run
Didn't stack the box. We ran base all night. Dabo has had a great run. He keeps this up, we might even take him off your hands.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:41 am to CCTider
lol why would Dabo go to MS state.
clem has a bigger stadium which SEC fans act like is big factor in what coaching jobs are the best
clem has a bigger stadium which SEC fans act like is big factor in what coaching jobs are the best
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 1:43 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:46 am to Jamie Lannister
Pretty sure he isn't an MSU fan.
Either way, you can question Alabama's schedule based off of whatever you want, but even if you nitpick every single team, it still is way more impressive than any other one loss team in the country.
Either way, you can question Alabama's schedule based off of whatever you want, but even if you nitpick every single team, it still is way more impressive than any other one loss team in the country.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:27 am to Jamie Lannister
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any team that struggles against Tenn at home or loses to Ole miss at home prob gpoing to lose to FSU
check the '08 natty title there my man
UF lost to a horrible Ole Miss at home and destroyed FSU, beat an unbeaten Bama, and easily won the title.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 3:29 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:58 am to bamasgot13
I say all this hubris is good no to make a deep Dakin' really freaking hilarious, not to mention even if Bama gets by MSU they still have to win the conference in Atlanta, and sure you beat the team that beat us on the road by a TD in your home stadium by 14 but we beat the team that marched into Tuscaloosa dropped bombs on the Tide and then withstood the desperate Bama comeback and a few garbage time points by 28 and that's with 7 after we called off the dogs.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:00 am to Jamie Lannister
You just lost any credibility you may have ever had. idiot.......
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:39 am to Jamie Lannister
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ok, he the one who chose to bash Clemson, he's not familiar with the state obviously
Actually very familiar with the state of SC. Yes Clemson is 45minutes away from Greenville. Not like Greenville is a major destination for anyone in the state. The majority of the traffic through the area is due to I85 & I26 go through it. The majority of the people that live there is because they work at the BMW, Michelin, other plants in the area. But yes I know the state very well as I am heading down for the weekend to my house in Charleston. I also still have my house in Asheville.
The finest establishment in Clemson was Tiger Tails which I believe is no longer there so really gone down hill now.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 6:43 am
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