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re: Name That Prospect

Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by BamaDoc14
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:04 am to
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I stopped reading here. Anything posted with Mel Kiper or Todd McShay deserves to be laughed at. Mike Mayock blows both of those clowns out of the water.


False statement is not only false, but laughable due to the fact that you think it's laughable that Mayock is superior given Kiper and McShay consistently out-perform him on draft day, showing not only a better penchant for talent placement, but also connections to the team.


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We graded the 2012 Round 1 NFL mock drafts of Mel Kiper (ESPN), Todd McShay (ESPN), and Mike Mayock (NFL.com), and once again, McShay came out on top. This marks the fourth consecutive year in which McShay bested his two fellow pundits in mock draft accuracy.

We calculated a variability measure based on the difference between when each player was projected to be picked and when he was actually picked. A lower variability score is better (ranks in parentheses).


Mayock finished last in 3 of the past 5 years when comparing to those two and second in the other two.

LINK
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:04 am to
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As is the possibility of somewhere jumping into the first round or early second to pick up AJ McCarron, but that gets laughed off the board.


Im pretty sure its because AJ is saying this
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:06 am to
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Stop, just stop. No.


You continue to show your bias when you continue to stand by your statement, even after given empirical evidence the proves your logic is faulty.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:06 am to
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I would be elated to get him on the Falcons in the early 3rd round. With our needs though I cant see taking him in the second with where we pick.


1st - Robinson
2nd - Ford
3rd - Mason


Turn the Birds into the Tigers....do it!
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:07 am to
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Im pretty sure its because AJ is saying this


And Jon Gruden, but he's not respected at all.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 11:07 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:07 am to
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You continue to show your bias when you continue to stand by your statement
quote:

BamaDoc14
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:08 am to
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And Jon Gruden, but he's not respected at all.


Oh so there was a thread about that, that rustled your jimmies or was it really the thread about AJ's comments?
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:11 am to
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Oh so there was a thread about that, that rustled your jimmies or was it really the thread about AJ's comments?



And Phil Savage.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:11 am to
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Oh so there was a thread about that, that rustled your jimmies or was it really the thread about AJ's comments?



And Pat Kirwan.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:11 am to
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Oh so there was a thread about that, that rustled your jimmies or was it really the thread about AJ's comments?



And Bucky Brooks.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:12 am to
So.....Ill take the no answer, and the timing of the thread as an assumption I am correct
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:12 am to
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1st - Robinson
2nd - Ford
3rd - Mason


Turn the Birds into the Tigers....do it!


What's funny is all of those guys would be good fits for the team as well. Make it happen Falcons. :)
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:13 am to
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What's funny is all of those guys would be good fits for the team as well. Make it happen Falcons. :)


Absolutely
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:13 am to
It was the thread about AJ. And it was a shitty thread. The link talks more about AJ's tattoo more than football.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:14 am to
I see you left out the year 2013...

LINK (the newest and most updated link)
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Let’s start with our simple variability measure, which is based on the difference between when each player was projected to be picked and when he was actually picked. A lower variability score is better:
Mike Mayock: 9.1
Mel Kiper: 9.6
Todd McShay: 10.6
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The worst projection of all, however, was McShay pegging Ryan Nassib going #7 to Buffalo (actual: #110 to the Giants). This was by the far the worst first-round projection since we started tracking the mock drafts in 2008.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:17 am to
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The worst projection of all, however, was McShay pegging Ryan Nassib going #7 to Buffalo (actual: #110 to the Giants). This was by the far the worst first-round projection since we started tracking the mock drafts in 2008.
ouch
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:22 am to
He almost nailed it.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:28 am to
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I see you left out the year 2013...


So one year bucks the whole 6 year trend?? When using statistics, it's always safest to go for that one year outlier.

Projected Actual Difference
Mike Mayock Geno Smith, QB 6 39 33
Stephen Hill, WR 20 43 23
Da'Quan Bowers, DE 20 51 31
DeSean Jackson, WR 24 49 25
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:31 am to
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So one year bucks the whole 6 year trend?
No, the averages I listed were from 2008 until 2013.

Mike Mayock: 9.1
Mel Kiper: 9.6
Todd McShay: 10.6

So, in short, from the year 2008 until last year, Mike Mayock has been most consistent and accurate with his projections.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 11:38 am to
From the link you posted...

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The results tell a clear story: Todd McShay has issued the most accurate mock drafts for each of the past three years.

Variability 2009 2010 2011 Average
McShay 8.7 (#1) 8.8 (#1) 6.8 (#1) 8.1 (#1)
Kiper 8.8 (#2) 10.4 (#3) 7.7 (#2) 9.0 (#2)
Mayock 9.6 (#3) 9.9 (#2) 9.3 (#3) 9.6 (#3)
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