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re: My upset pick MSU over Bama. Here's why

Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Bielema Dat
Jasper, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:11 pm to
More like an 18-17 MSU upset. 35 points is unlikely
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:11 pm to
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Last year Alabama keyed up on Dak the entire game. That was when the wide receivers were much better as well.


This year Dak is better.

This year, they have deeper and BETTER receivers.

This year, the one thing the OL excels at.. Pass protection.


Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:12 pm to
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2 - but Ole Miss didn't go 5 wide very much. They had a back in quite frequently. They split Engram out a lot, though.

You can't beat Alabama being totally 1 dimensional. You have to at least present the other option as a possibility. If you just line up in 5 wide every play we are going to eat your lunch.

State is going to run a ton of run-pass option stuff out of 4 wide and 3 WR/1 TE sets.


Isn't Dak a mobile, dual threat QB? He can buy time with his legs. Ratcheting up tempo seems to take a lot of "want to" out of a defenses pass rush no matter who they are. I haven't watched any State games this year so I don't know what kind of personnel they really have. They've given up 13 sacks through 9 games. That's pretty decent.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:13 pm to
We have faced and beat him twice already.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:13 pm to
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State is going to run a ton of run-pass option stuff out of 4 wide and 3 WR/1 TE sets.



Bet they don't! Bet they throw it 40+ times!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:15 pm to
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Isn't Dak a mobile, dual threat QB? He can buy time with his legs.


He's mobile, but he isn't Nick Marshall or Jonny Manziel fast.

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Ratcheting up tempo seems to take a lot of "want to" out of a defenses pass rush no matter who they are.


It can also put you in a deep hole if you don't do it well.
Posted by ElephantGA
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2015
538 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:15 pm to
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I'm an enormous LSU homer and we need help


I lol'd

Edit: Correct quote.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:16 pm to
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Bet they don't! Bet they throw it 40+ times!


I do too, but they won't be doing all of it out of 5-WR sets. I can pretty much guarantee you that. Mullen is way too smart to do that.

Trust me, I'd love for Mullen to stick Dak back there and run 45 drop back passes from the shotgun. Would take all of the other options and window dressing away for our DB's and LB's and let them focus on one thing. Would be perfect.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:16 pm to
If Texas AM and LSU's defense can stop Dak, you better believe Alabama's can too.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Next is the fact that the OL has given dak a lot of time this season


So had LSU's line. How'd that go?



I love when a p[oster tries to compare 2 offenses that are 100% different and expect the same results.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Ole miss would not have won if bama had not self destructed.


I know tRant and some in the media love this narrative, but they didn't self-destruct. We made them self-destruct. Now, Ole Miss's last two losses on the other hand, those were self-destructions. Downvote for being an idiot.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Have those guys sat out the year to this point?



No, but they have not focused on just the run.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:18 pm to
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I love when a p[oster tries to compare 2 offenses that are 100% different and expect the same results.


A&M, Tennessee, etc

Anytime Tennessee went 5-wide and dropped Dobbs back he got assassinated. So, notice what they did? They ran wide, they rolled Dobbs, they kept a tight end in, they kept a back in, they threw short stuff all around.

That is what Mullen will do, he will just do it more because they can't run as well as Tennessee and their QB is better.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:19 pm to
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No, but they have not focused on just the run.


So they gave up 200 yards rushing to Missouri because they were focusing on their NCAA worst passing attack? Or they were just playing possum?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:20 pm to
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We made them self-destruct


Agree on the interceptions.

The special teams fumbles were just sloppy pathetic self destruction. It isn't an excuse but it's definitely self destruction. Doesn't really matter, though.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:24 pm to
I'll agree on that. I think because we've fallen off the face of the Earth and Bama has gotten exponentially better each week, the only explainable narrative for those that didn't watch it closely was an implosion by Bama and all luck from us.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:26 pm to
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I'll agree on that. I think because we've fallen off the face of the Earth and Bama has gotten exponentially better each week, the only explainable narrative for those that didn't watch it closely was an implosion by Bama and all luck from us.


Yea, that definitely was not the case. That team that beat us was a really good team. Offense didn't make mistakes, defense had all their guys and played fast and created plays.

I mean, yea a bunch of screwy stuff happened, but we also made a bunch of stupid mistakes, a number of which were forced by Ole Miss.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:29 pm to
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My upset pick MSU over Bama. Here's why


Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:35 pm to
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No, but they have not focused on just the run.
Why not? Didn't they play LSU?
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So they gave up 200 yards rushing to Missouri because they were focusing on their NCAA worst passing attack? Or they were just playing possum?
Oh, and this.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 3:36 pm to
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That was when the wide receivers were much better as well.


State's wr core is significantly better this year than last year.
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