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re: My final Derek Barnett > Myles Garrett thread

Posted on 12/29/16 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Does it really matter who has the better DE when neither team is that good?


Reggie Whites college career he was 28-18 (5-6 8-4 6-5 9-3) and hes considered the best ever

Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 4:36 pm to
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D Ric



The frick is this? That's Mr. Rogers to you, peasant
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:08 pm to
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Own your pwn, Slowboy Brannigan


You think I'm a Garrett fan dumbass?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:44 pm to
Idk but you are an SEC west dickrider that posts stupid shite on the internet and gets pwnt by top tier football minds
Posted by TOSOV
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:28 pm to
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D Ric
You don't play in the SECw. Comparison is invalid.


Ha!!! you were saying piggie?? Ha!!
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:29 pm to
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SEC west dickrider that posts stupid shite on the internet and gets pwnt by top tier football minds


Because the East sucks. The East is so bad even Tennessee was in position to win that division.

But congrats on having one good player. At least someone on your defense is not a total bitch.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:34 pm to
The West is trash also outside of one team.
Posted by Robert Goulet
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:36 pm to
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Because the East sucks. The East is so bad even Tennessee was in position to win that division.

But congrats on having one good player. At least someone on your defense is not a total bitch.



Jesus Christ, Brannigan, take your L and frick off you boob.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:19 am to
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Because the East sucks. The East is so bad even Tennessee was in position to win that division. But congrats on having one good player. At least someone on your defense is not a total bitch.


I posted Barnett's stats against the west and they are right in line with his dominant career numbers yet you're still doubling down on your stupidity.

Follow Bob's advice and take your L, brah.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:40 am to
Hey Brannigan, check this out

Myles Garrett is overrated. I will show you why with cold hard stats:

DB: 189 TK 50.0 TFL 31 SK

MG: 144 TK 48.0 TFL 32.5 SK

So DB leads MG in tackles by a longshot, but MG leads TFLs and SKs by a slim margin. Now lets break those down vs SEC Competition:

DB: 129 TK 41 TFL 28 SK

MG: 86 TKL 23.5 TFL 12 SK

WOW! So in SEC competition, DB wins in TKs by a wide margin, and now he nearly doubles MG's TFLs and nearly triples his sacks! Something must be up, lets take a look at who these players got their sacks against to see who showed out against tough competition:

Sack by Teams:

DB

Florida x3
Ole Miss x3
South Carolina x6
Kentucky x5
Vandy x3
Oklahoma
Georgia x3
Alabama x2
South Carolina
North Texas
Northwestern
TAMU
Mizzou

MG

South Carolina x3
Lamar x2
Rice x2.5
Miss St x2
Ole Miss
Louisiana Monroe x 3.5
West Virginia x .5
ASU x2
Nevada x3
Arkansas
LSU
Louisville
UCLA
Auburn x2
VOLS
UT - San Antonio x 4.5




Conclusion: Forget about the West vs East argument, this is a player vs player argument. Its a proven fact. Derek Barnett (the best Defensive lineman if not player in college football) shows out against tough competition. Myles Garrett is a Marshmallow.



SOURCE
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:51 am to
So basically half of Garrett's career sacks have come against Lamar, Rice, UL-Monroe, Nevada and San Antonio
Posted by Guitarcheese
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:53 am to
He plays in the same division as Alabama though
Posted by TOSOV
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Sack by Teams:

DB

Alabama x2


MG

South Carolina x3
Lamar x2
Rice x2.5
Miss St x2
Ole Miss
Louisiana Monroe x 3.5
West Virginia x .5
ASU x2
Nevada x3
Arkansas
LSU
Louisville
UCLA
Auburn x2
VOLS
UT - San Antonio x 4.5



Was MG vs bama accidently left out? Or did he not play them? That's the one consistent yearly opponent.

And for the record anyone that tries to use the VOLs don't play the SECW excuse needs to look at the luck the VOLs have had in their west pairing the last few years. Bama, and pretty much the #2 in the west. If I were an LSU fan I'd be postive for next year cause next year we play. Which will make them better of course according to the VOLS recent luck. At least up to the game.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:41 am to
So the common opponents sacks argument breaks down like this:


Alabama: 3 games each

DB- 2
MG- 0

Arkansas: 1 game for Barnett, 3 for Garrett

DB- 0
MG- 1

Ole Miss: 1 game for Barnett, 3 for Garrett

DB- 3
MG- 1


South Carolina: 3 games each

DB- 6
MG- 3


Mizzou: 3 games for Barnett, 1 for Garrett

DB- 1
MG- 0


So even though Garrett played 2 more games against common opponents,

DB- 12
MG- 5





Now, Captain Brannigan, hold that L, and suck my D

Posted by agswin
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:02 am to
This is the last we will hear of either one. One will disappear in Cleveland and the other will be appearing on milk cartons in Jacksonville.

So long, you were both great.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/31/16 at 8:40 am to
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You probably should have kept this one until after he plays Nebraska.



Post-Nebraska bump for teh Aggy

1 sack, 1 TFL, 4 QB hurries and 2 batted down passes for VOLS GOAT pass rusher Derek Barnett
Posted by gigem1966
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Posted on 12/31/16 at 8:50 am to
Stupid post. Why would I hate Garrett?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Garrett vs SEC opponents (career): 12 sacks 23.5 TFL (22 games)

vs Ranked opponents (career): 6 sacks 14.5 TFL (10 games)


Barnett vs SEC opponents (career): 29 sacks 42.5 TFL (24 games)

vs ranked opponents (career): 10 sacks 19.5 TFL (10 games)


Posted by sand mountainDvalues
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