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re: Most Underrated Coach in Your School's History?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:20 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:20 am to RollTide1987
Mark Richt...without question
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:22 am to DamnStrong1860
I don't know if I'd consider him "underrated" but I would have liked to see what Sparky Woods might have done with a couple more years and Taneyhill at the helm. He couldn't have done any worse than the Fat Bradstard; unfortunately for him the writing was already on the wall after the team revolt his final season.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:38 am to thatdude1985
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Shula...he was real real good.
I know this was sarcasm, but Shula is owed a pretty big debt of gratitude for what he was willing to do for Alabama.
He took over a program
(a) on crippling probation (b) whose coach had just been fired after spring practice for cavorting with a stripper on the school's dime having never coached a game (c) whose coach before that guy had left for another program in the dead of night after only two seasons after (d) replacing a morally bankrupt coach who got fired for losing, cheating, and banging the hired help.
When they hit the field that fall the seniors on Shula's first team were playing for their 4th head coach in 4 years.
Despite it's history, Alabama's entire program could have literally come apart at the seams. Shula managed to hold it together, recruit reasonably well, field a pretty competitive product, and go to a bowl every season but his first. It was time for him to go after 2006 but without the job done by Shula, Alabama most likely isn't in a position to attract Saban.
He isn't Alabama's most under rated coach (he'd have been a consistent 6-8 win a year guy) but he is beyond doubt the most under appreciated.
For underrated, I'd go with Gene Stallings. He's in a situation similar to that of Les Miles. All he did was win an average of 10 a year when a regular season was 11 games and go to the SEC title game every season they were eligible. Unfortunately, he lost 3 of the 4 to the Saban of that decade so he's not appreciated nearly as much as he should.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:44 am to JustGetItRight
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Unfortunately, he lost 3 of the 4 to the Saban of that decade so he's not appreciated nearly as much as he should.
Stallings was actually 1-5 against Spurrier while he was at Alabama. That having been said, I don't know where this notion that Stallings was under appreciated is coming from. Stallings remains one of Alabama's most beloved coaches. Aside from the '93 LSU game and the '96 Mississippi State game, Stallings never shite the bed against inferior competition. When he lost it was to teams that were better than his own. Sure, his offensive philosophy was difficult to understand at times, but it won us football games.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:46 am to DamnStrong1860
Gerry, we got immediate returns (which we sorely needed after the Hallman era), and though his last two years sucked on the field he brought in a lot of good players who were critical to Saban's early success.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:50 am to JustGetItRight
W.A. Cunningham
Pop Warner generally gets credit for making UGA relevant in football, but he was only there 2 years
Cunningham pretty much single handedly created the foundation for UGA to be viewed as a winning program.
We have only had ONE coach with a losing record since Cunningham left his mark on our program (Johnny Griffith, our poor experiment after Wally Butts & before Vince Dooley)
Pop Warner generally gets credit for making UGA relevant in football, but he was only there 2 years
Cunningham pretty much single handedly created the foundation for UGA to be viewed as a winning program.
We have only had ONE coach with a losing record since Cunningham left his mark on our program (Johnny Griffith, our poor experiment after Wally Butts & before Vince Dooley)
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:57 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
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Boy that sure is important.
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After seeing the formula's potential in an intrasquad scrimmage, Graves asked Cade to make enough for the entire team for the next game against Louisiana State; the LSU Tigers wilted in the 102-degree game-day heat, and the Gators came from behind to win in the second half. He told his friend Kansas City Chiefs head coach Hank Stram of the drink's effectiveness, a move that eventually led to Gatorade becoming the official sports drink of the NFL.
You can bet yo sweet LSU arse it was important.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:02 pm to olemc999
Dinardo lost Morris Watts and Carl Reese, at the time LSU wasn't going along with the high pay for assistants, he never was able to recover.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:04 pm to DamnStrong1860
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If we'd have hired a guy who couldn't accomplish what Dinardo did I don't think Saban comes to LSU.
I have long thought this.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:08 pm to Evolved Simian
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Shula. He was a decent coach. Not Saban, but a decent coach. He came to UA under the worst possible circumstances, and did as well or better than 90% of others would have.
no doubt saban is the best coach in college football, but I really did always feel like Shula got canned way too early
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Live2
Galen Hall
Went 8-0 in 1984 with a 4-0 SEC record after taking over for the fired Pell.
(Florida won its first-ever Southeastern Conference SEC football championship.)Later vacated, by those bastards in Birmingham.
Despite the sanctions, Hall's 1985 Gators would again go 9–1–1 on the field and tie for the SEC lead with a 5–1 conference record, but could not claim the conference title because of NCAA and SEC probation.
Then the NCAA sanctions caused by Pell took effect.
Went 8-0 in 1984 with a 4-0 SEC record after taking over for the fired Pell.
(Florida won its first-ever Southeastern Conference SEC football championship.)Later vacated, by those bastards in Birmingham.
Despite the sanctions, Hall's 1985 Gators would again go 9–1–1 on the field and tie for the SEC lead with a 5–1 conference record, but could not claim the conference title because of NCAA and SEC probation.
Then the NCAA sanctions caused by Pell took effect.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:19 pm to DamnStrong1860
I wouldn't agree with DiNardo, he had Kevin Faulk for four years and the only time he got to Atlanta was for the Peach Bowl.
I would go with Bernie Moore for LSU, he went 83-39, and his first three years took LSU to 3 straight Sugar Bowls.
I would go with Bernie Moore for LSU, he went 83-39, and his first three years took LSU to 3 straight Sugar Bowls.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:50 pm to JustGetItRight
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I know this was sarcasm, but Shula is owed a pretty big debt of gratitude for what he was willing to do for Alabama.
He took over a program
(a) on crippling probation (b) whose coach had just been fired after spring practice for cavorting with a stripper on the school's dime having never coached a game (c) whose coach before that guy had left for another program in the dead of night after only two seasons after (d) replacing a morally bankrupt coach who got fired for losing, cheating, and banging the hired help.
When they hit the field that fall the seniors on Shula's first team were playing for their 4th head coach in 4 years.
Despite it's history, Alabama's entire program could have literally come apart at the seams. Shula managed to hold it together, recruit reasonably well, field a pretty competitive product, and go to a bowl every season but his first. It was time for him to go after 2006 but without the job done by Shula, Alabama most likely isn't in a position to attract Saban.
He isn't Alabama's most under rated coach (he'd have been a consistent 6-8 win a year guy) but he is beyond doubt the most under appreciated.
For underrated, I'd go with Gene Stallings. He's in a situation similar to that of Les Miles. All he did was win an average of 10 a year when a regular season was 11 games and go to the SEC title game every season they were eligible. Unfortunately, he lost 3 of the 4 to the Saban of that decade so he's not appreciated nearly as much as he should.
Good stuff but I'll never forgive him for keeping Prothro in. I watched him since he was a freshman in HS. That was a great win but I would give it up if it gives me a healthy Prothro back. Dude was on a tear...
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:53 pm to DamnStrong1860
Dennis Franchione. He pretty much saved Alabama's football team and paved the way for their modern success, by leaving Bama for A&M.
That's pretty damn impressive.
That's pretty damn impressive.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:56 pm to AgCoug
77-0?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:58 pm to thatdude1985
Sometimes I wonder about the state of modern college football in an alternative universe had Little Debbie stayed at Bama.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:06 pm to AgCoug
actually Les Miles is under appreciated by a segment of LSU's fan base. My vote goes to him.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:10 pm to AgCoug
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Dennis Franchione. He pretty much saved Alabama's football team and paved the way for their modern success, by leaving Bama for A&M.
Franchione was actually a decent coach at Alabama. We went 7-5 with him in 2001 and 10-3 with him in 2002. We should have beaten Auburn in '02, thus finishing the season with an 11-2 record, but by that time Franchione had phoned it in as he knew he was leaving for Texas A&M upon the end of the season.
He didn't even show up for some of the Iron Bowl practices that week.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 5:33 pm to pvilleguru
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