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re: More dominant: SEC baseball or football?
Posted on 12/20/12 at 2:19 pm to Hog on the Hill
Posted on 12/20/12 at 2:19 pm to Hog on the Hill
No clue about track to be honest.
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 2:56 pm to lsutigertalk
Arky fans are the only ones who somewhat care about track. Give them some football success and they won't cling to track so tightly
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:49 pm to jackmanusc
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We had 3 out of 8 teams in Omaha last year
We had 3 out of 8 in 2011. (4 if you count TAMU)
Confusing syntax to your post - are we talking about 2012 (last year), or 2011)?
If you are looking to quote a particularly dominating year for the SEC in Omaha look no further than 2011 when, in fact, the SEC finished 1, 2, 3 and the entire all tourney team was comprised of SEC players ... and, for that matter, it was the SEC East that dominated, SC, UF and Vandy.
Those three teams went undefeated against OoC opponents in the CWS - it had never been done before and it will probably not ever be done again by any conference, much less one half, one division, from one conference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_College_World_Series#College_World_Series
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For the first time in CWS history, the All-Tournament Team, including the Most Outstanding Player, was composed entirely of players from one conference, the SEC; more specifically the SEC Eastern Division. (South Carolina x 7, Florida x 2, Vanderbilt x 2)
This is the first CWS to feature eight schools from BCS automatic qualifying conferences. (3 SEC, 2 ACC, 2 Big 12, 1 Pac-10)
The 1987 event was the last with eight major football-playing schools. Florida State, which played baseball in the Metro Conference at the time, was an elite Independent in football, since the Metro did not sponsor football until the 1995 conference reunification.
The SEC Eastern Division has three teams in the same CWS for the first time, South Carolina, Florida, Vanderbilt.
The SEC East qualified all three teams in these semi-final finals.
The SEC West qualified four of its six teams in 1997, including national champion LSU.
Florida is making its first back-to-back trip to the College World Series in school history. South Carolina is also making a back-to-back CWS appearance, but for the fourth time, (1981–82, 2002,03,04 & 2010-11).
South Carolina is the first defending Champion to make it back to the CWS and defend its title since Oregon State did so in 2007.
This is Vanderbilt's first trip to the College World Series in school history.
This now makes Kentucky the only SEC school to have never made it to the College World Series.
This is the 19th consecutive year that the SEC has fielded at least one team in the College World Series.
This is the 4th consecutive year that the SEC has fielded at least one team in the Championship Series.
* This is the second time that the SEC fielded two teams in the Championship Game (LSU-Alabama 1997)
The SEC was undefeated against out-of-conference opponents this CWS, going 6-0 in those games versus teams outside of the SEC.
The Big 12 Conference went 0-4 this CWS.
There have been 86 extra-inning games played in the history of the College World Series. By the end of this series, South Carolina had played in the past four.
Three CWS Championship Series games have gone to 11 innings. By the end of this series South Carolina had played in the past two.
For the first time in CWS history, the All-Tournament Team, including the Most Outstanding Player, was composed entirely of players from one conference, the SEC; more specifically the SEC Eastern Division. (South Carolina x 7, Florida x 2, Vanderbilt x 2)
The South Carolina Gamecocks were the first team to go undefeated in the NCAA tournament since the Miami Hurricanes did so in 2001.
With Game 1 Championship Series win South Carolina ties NCAA record for consecutive Post Season wins (Texas 1983-84) 15.
With Game 1 Championship Series win South Carolina ties NCAA record for consecutive College World Series wins (Southern California, LSU) 10.
With Game 2 Championship Series win South Carolina breaks the NCAA record for consecutive Post Season wins 16.
With Game 2 Championship Series win South Carolina breaks the NCAA record for consecutive College World Series wins 11.
South Carolina becomes the first team to win the CWS NCAA National Championship in the new TD Ameritrade Park Omaha. (South Carolina was also the last team to win the Championship in the old Johnny Rosenblatt Stadium.)
South Carolina becomes the first team to win the CWS NCAA National Championship while using the new BBCOR (Batted Ball Coefficient of Restitution) Standard composite baseball bats that resulted in far less overall offensive production, nationally and across the board, during the 2011 college baseball season. The Gamecocks were also the first team to win the CWS while operating under the new "20-second pitch-clock" rule. (South Carolina was also the last team to win the CWS in 2010 using the old metal bats and without a time limit imposed between pitches.)
South Carolina becomes the sixth team in CWS history to win Back-to-Back NCAA D1 Baseball Championships. (Texas 1949-50, Southern California 1970-74, Stanford 1987-88, LSU 1996-97, Oregon State 2006-07. South Carolina 2010-11)
Posted on 12/20/12 at 3:55 pm to lsutothetop
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6 straight NCs, seventh right around the corner, and no end in sight. The same honestly cannot be said of baseball.
Baseball is deeper, football is stronger.
Ummmm, let's stop and think about that line of reasoning for one moment, shall we?
Football - one game championship, based upon final regular season polls, one game for all the marbles.
Baseball - conference tourney, seeding, regionals, super regionals then on to Obama for the CWS. Big, BIG difference.
If anything, the format for college baseball only proves that the SEC has been far more dominant in baseball than in football. The SEC Champs come out of nowhere, fight our way through the brackets often times when they try to stack the brackets against our conference, and still win championships.
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:04 pm to scrooster
That's completely backwards. It's much more difficult to win a championship in football. It's "one game for all the marbles," yes, but you have to be one of the top 2 teams in the country to get to that game. Much easier to get one of 64 bids and get hot right before tourney time.
Dominance is also relative to one's opponent. The Pac-12 and ACC are respectable compared to the SEC in baseball. Not better, obviously, but at least respectable. No one can touch the SEC in football. The gap between the SEC and the rest in football so clearly outstrips the same gap in baseball that I'm kinda surprised there's an argument.
Dominance is also relative to one's opponent. The Pac-12 and ACC are respectable compared to the SEC in baseball. Not better, obviously, but at least respectable. No one can touch the SEC in football. The gap between the SEC and the rest in football so clearly outstrips the same gap in baseball that I'm kinda surprised there's an argument.
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:07 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
wrong; SEC Gymnastics +50% of all National Championships
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:15 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I know this thread is about baseball and football, but what about Equestrian? USC, UGA, ATM, AU. Does any other conference come close?
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:20 pm to ConwayGamecock
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I know this thread is about baseball and football, but what about Equestrian? USC, UGA, ATM, AU. Does any other conference come close?
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 5:12 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I just wish we were going to be good this year. I am an avid aggie baseball fan and watch about 90% of the games. I sure hope some of the young guys can come in and take over the pitching... otherwise, it is going to be a long season.
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