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re: Monday Memories - When Evan made LSU quit

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Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:05 pm to
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2 Seniors and 3 Juniors



Getting to be the norm. People should be used to us having a lot of turnover on the OL by now. Hevesey will field a solid line, just like every other season.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:05 pm to
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2 Seniors and 3 Juniors


Being older doesn't make you better.
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Hevesey will field a solid line, just like every other season.


Nothing like blind optimism.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:07 pm to
So much for trying to answer your question.

Maybe skirp will continue to argue with you.
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:09 pm to
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So much for trying to answer your question.


You ever stop to think that maybe those guys were on the bench because they weren't that good? I mean, that's literally the first thought that occurred to me.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:09 pm to
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Nothing like blind optimism.



Nothing blind about proven results. Proven results with vastly inferior talent to what he has now too.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:11 pm to
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Proven results with vastly inferior talent to what he has now too.


If they were inferior they wouldn't have been starting. I mean, that's a pretty logical assertion.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:12 pm to
Think hard about what you are saying. Let me know when the light comes on.......
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:14 pm to
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You ever stop to think that maybe those guys were on the bench because they weren't that good? I mean, that's literally the first thought that occurred to me.



Or maybe a line with a lot of movement benefits from guys staying in the system. There is no excuse for a freshman being better than a sophomore 90% of the time on the OL. If it's happening, I'm going to say it's time to look at your S&C coach, or you're running a 1990's HS scheme at OL. A team with good depth shouldn't have underclassman starting on the OL, with rare exception.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:15 pm to
ITT, Dawgs are toeing the company line about replacing starters and players and Tigahs are relying on games in the past to predict future success.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:16 pm to
He is not taking into account a full extra year to develop behind the upperclassmen. It has driven lots of us bonkers at times. But, Mullen has stayed true to his system.

All over the field.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Tigahs are relying on games in the past to predict future success.



While claiming that us expecting Hevesey to field a competent line, based on previous success, is blind optimism.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Tigahs are relying on games in the past to predict future success.


Everyone says this. We all know it isn't true. LSU fans are relying on having recruited head and shoulders above State for the last 20 years or so to predict success against State. You can argue whether those things have a causal relationship or not but don't pretend like there is no basis upon which to assume LSU will be State.

ETA: I love when LSU loses players it is tdecline, you don't get better losing people, you can't make up that deficit. State loses players, replacing them with players that were much better than them. Got to love the rant.
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:24 pm to
With that same argument State's incoming group of offensive linemen starters are considered better players than who they are replacing by recruiting standards. So we are expecting them to be ok, maybe even better.

Especially having the advantage of being in the system longer. Why is that not translating?
Posted by skirpnasty
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:29 pm to
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ETA: I love when LSU loses players it is tdecline, you don't get better losing people, you can't make up that deficit. State loses players, replacing them with players that were much better than them. Got to love the rant.



We claim that we are replacing them with better players because our recruiting rankings have steadily increased over the past 5 years.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33950 posts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:30 pm to
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here is no excuse for a freshman being better than a sophomore 90% of the time on the OL.


Uh, maybe the freshman is more talented? That happens all the time.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33950 posts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:30 pm to
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We claim that we are replacing them with better players because our recruiting rankings have steadily increased over the past 5 years.


But in this case, its a bunch of guys who couldn't get on the field for more than three years.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:35 pm to
There is the Mullen factor here. He is too loyal to Seniors in my opinion. Let him have it for that...I will agree with you.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:37 pm to
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But in this case, its a bunch of guys who couldn't get on the field for more than three years.



What are you missing about what I'm saying? They are behind at least a year of development compared to upperclassmen. If you develop players properly, freshmen shouldn't be more talented than the older guys very often.

The year of age and weight room development alone are huge compared to a HS kid.
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 3:44 pm
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