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Posted on 12/27/20 at 5:56 pm to TrueLefty
Posted on 12/27/20 at 5:56 pm to TrueLefty
I’m telling you, Missouri, you keep this up and next time we won’t stop at just instigating protests. We will push it to full blown riots.
One does not simply mess with the hierarchy of the Big 6 and expect to go unpunished.
One does not simply mess with the hierarchy of the Big 6 and expect to go unpunished.
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 5:58 pm to Jmill88
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LOL...ok dude. Whatever gets you through the day.
I mean you could counter with substantial replies, that is an option if you can think of any
or you could acknowledge the fact-points on the incredible misfortunes and challenges barry inherited and then hit him in year 4 coming off an 8 win season with positive momentum growing
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:01 pm to TrueLefty
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Drinkwitz is able to make contact to top recruits in St. Louis and ESL high school. When Odom was HC at Mizzou high school HCs St. Louis and ESL areas kept Odom from making any contact to their top recruits. This is proof Odom was part of the problem!
it's also proof you're literally lying
odom made incredible headway in the stl area and literally change the narrative completely
odom wasn't disliked in stl by the people that matter
the esl head coach is untrustworthy and will turn on Mizzou the second one of his guys isn't prioritized and given undeserved opportunities from drink
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:05 pm to rustyshackleferd
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I’m telling you, Missouri, you keep this up and next time we won’t stop at just instigating protests. We will push it to full blown riots.
One does not simply mess with the hierarchy of the Big 6 and expect to go unpunished.
What? Why make a threat to Mizzou?! You need to worry about LSU!
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:07 pm to Hidden Tiger
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Drinkwitz is able to make contact to top recruits in St. Louis and ESL high school. When Odom was HC at Mizzou high school HCs St. Louis and ESL areas kept Odom from making any contact to their top recruits. This is proof Odom was part of the problem!
it's also proof you're literally lying
odom made incredible headway in the stl area and literally change the narrative completely
odom wasn't disliked in stl by the people that matter
the esl head coach is untrustworthy and will turn on Mizzou the second one of his guys isn't prioritized and given undeserved opportunities from drink
It was in an article way back when Drinkwitz was hired.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:31 pm to TrueLefty
don't care
not true
if that's in an article it's shod journalism
stl hs coaches were talking to barry and allowing their players to be recruited by him
complete and absolute false narrative
not true
if that's in an article it's shod journalism
stl hs coaches were talking to barry and allowing their players to be recruited by him
complete and absolute false narrative
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:33 pm to Hidden Tiger
I already hit you with facts dude. He was 13th in recruiting every year. Lost to teams we should never lose to and now can’t coach a defense against the team that he couldn’t overcome some difficulties with. Facts. Deal with it bitch.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:34 pm to Hidden Tiger
Too bad he couldn’t land enough of the players and was 13th in recruiting every year.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:54 pm to Jmill88
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I already hit you with facts dude. He was 13th in recruiting every year. Lost to teams we should never lose to and now can’t coach a defense against the team that he couldn’t overcome some difficulties with. Facts. Deal with it bitch.
-took over a program that was entirely ruined culturally and the entire state either hated Mizzou or lost all interest and remained apathetic for years
-dealt with roster issues stemming from a previous regime that filled paper recruiting classes with guys that were unlikely at best to actually play on the football team
-torn apart stadium
-as momentum shifted positive with an 8 win season and national recruiting victory for a prized transfer qb the program was hit with an NCAA investigation and eventual sanctions and that qb failed miserably in a true transition year
-he recruited well despite those rankings and the challenges of dealing with overturning a racist narrative and dealing with NCAA investigation.
-his work on the trail had a ton to do with the recruiting class put together this year, as well as some of the key gets for drink in last years class like rakestraw who was identified early by barry and eventually Bama wanted a piece
at the very very very least the entire Mizzou fanbase should be honest in recognizing what actually happened and why
the failure to be honest here will potentially cause issues in the future
think how long it took Cuonzo to reshape the culture on a literal team with a quarter of the athletes and staff as the football team
the arrow was going up with football, period
drink is a sharp guy and probably a good football coach who greatly benefited from taking over a darn okay situation considering P5 coaching changes usually happen when things are way worse
Mizzou fans didn't get what they wanted in 2016 and they literally bitched about it any chance they could until they got barry out
Psychologically it's understandable that the fans wanted a bigger splash in 2016 after such a long period under GP and a lack of newness. it was craved and the barry hire didn't quench that desire.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:56 pm to Hidden Tiger
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don't care
not true
if that's in an article it's shod journalism
stl hs coaches were talking to barry and allowing their players to be recruited by him
complete and absolute false narrative
St. Louis high school HCs and ESL HC announced to open the communication to Mizzou again with their top players when Mizzou cleaned house. President, that one professor, Odom and some others were no longer at Mizzou.
Again it was their top players. Yes Odom did recruit players but they were not their top players!
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:58 pm to Jmill88
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Too bad he couldn’t land enough of the players and was 13th in recruiting every year.
he recruited this years SEC FR of the year and hopefully the Butkus award winner
he identified players like rakestraw before anyone else
he flipped the narrative in stl back in Mizzou's favor despite unprecedented challenges in that area coming off the race driven issues in 2015
you're not an honest person and because of that you're very one sided in the way you look at things
Posted on 12/27/20 at 6:59 pm to TrueLefty
share the article
literally anything the esl coach says is irrelevant, the man is racist and nuts and will burn whoever doesn't give him what he thinks he and his players deserve
stl was done with Mizzou when barry took over and he rolled up his sleeves, literally, and went to work and won people over in that city.
literally anything the esl coach says is irrelevant, the man is racist and nuts and will burn whoever doesn't give him what he thinks he and his players deserve
stl was done with Mizzou when barry took over and he rolled up his sleeves, literally, and went to work and won people over in that city.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/20 at 7:30 pm to Hidden Tiger
Barry was .500 in 4 years where we averaged over 8 wins per year the decade prior. He was 13-19 in the SEC. He recruited only better than Vandy. Lost his team every single year except for Lock's Senior where he completely underachieved with Pinkels last good recruiting class going 8-5.
What he did do was keep our head above water as we found our next guy. That was his ceiling. Unfortunately for him, we expect more.
What he did do was keep our head above water as we found our next guy. That was his ceiling. Unfortunately for him, we expect more.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 7:31 pm to Hidden Tiger
Oh look, sleepy tiger is back.
Did they let you out of the padded room?
Did they let you out of the padded room?
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:03 pm to kczoutiger
yep, those are facts
but as humans we have a choice to apply context and information and feeling to things.
he had 7 and 8 wins in year 2 and 3, even with the unprecedented challenges
2016 was an absolute disaster with Kelly Bryant, but most should have understood it was a transition year for the offense, and what better way to have a one year holdover at qb than to win a national recruiting battle for a colorful and prized recruit from a program like clemson. it didn't work out. shite happens. ultimately things were going in a really good direction and that had a ton if not all to do with the somewhat positive season the team had this year.
but as humans we have a choice to apply context and information and feeling to things.
he had 7 and 8 wins in year 2 and 3, even with the unprecedented challenges
2016 was an absolute disaster with Kelly Bryant, but most should have understood it was a transition year for the offense, and what better way to have a one year holdover at qb than to win a national recruiting battle for a colorful and prized recruit from a program like clemson. it didn't work out. shite happens. ultimately things were going in a really good direction and that had a ton if not all to do with the somewhat positive season the team had this year.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:03 pm to kilo
how's the minivan running these days, kilo?
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:19 pm to Hidden Tiger
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:25 pm to Hidden Tiger
Favorite part was taking away credit from the current staff for players and their development while giving all credit to B.O. for things that G.P.s players did.
All Mizzou fans wanted B.O. to succeed. But his lack of preparation and failure to get teams with good talent to compete with their peers and beat lesser teams was mind boggling. Never beating KY, 1-3 vs USC, Losses to middle TN, Purdue & Wyoming. He often needed a burn the film rah rah speech to salvage a season losing at least 5 in a row 3 of his 4 seasons. Something that happened just once in Pinkels 15 seasons. And although it fell apart at the end for GP, he passed on a program that was head and shoulders above what he took over. He went to 10 bowls in his final 13 years. Mizzou had been to 2 bowls in the 17 years prior to GP.
I know facts and reasoning are often lost here, but Barry was just not a very good HC
All Mizzou fans wanted B.O. to succeed. But his lack of preparation and failure to get teams with good talent to compete with their peers and beat lesser teams was mind boggling. Never beating KY, 1-3 vs USC, Losses to middle TN, Purdue & Wyoming. He often needed a burn the film rah rah speech to salvage a season losing at least 5 in a row 3 of his 4 seasons. Something that happened just once in Pinkels 15 seasons. And although it fell apart at the end for GP, he passed on a program that was head and shoulders above what he took over. He went to 10 bowls in his final 13 years. Mizzou had been to 2 bowls in the 17 years prior to GP.
I know facts and reasoning are often lost here, but Barry was just not a very good HC
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:26 pm to JesusQuintana
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This is actually Barry Odom’s mom posting.
Lawsie !
Posted on 12/27/20 at 8:35 pm to frodaddy
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Favorite part was taking away credit from the current staff for players and their development while giving all credit to B.O. for things that G.P.s players did.
All Mizzou fans wanted B.O. to succeed. But his lack or preparation and failure to get teams with good talent to compete with their peers and beat lesser teams was mind boggling. Never beating KY, 1-3 vs USC, Losses to middle TN, Purdue & Wyoming. He often needed a burn the film rah rah speech to salvage a season losing at least 5 in a row 3 or his 4 seasons. Something that happened just once in Pinkels 15 seasons. And although it fell apart at the end for GP, he passed on a program that was head and shoulders above what he took over. He went to 10 bowls in his final 13 years. Mizzou had been to 2 bowls in the 17 years prior to GP.
I know facts and reasoning are often lost here, but Barry was just not a very good HC
a lot of misfires here in this post
Mizzou fans did not support the hiring of barry, both message boards fought against it and the narrative was never overwhelmingly supportive or excited for the hire
Pinkel, love him of course, but he did not leave a good program. this issue is easily the hardest for most Mizzou fans to comprehend properly because it all happened so fast and the impact isn't completely measurable.
the program pinkel left behind was ridden with a cokehead qb, a staff that partied too much, and a blm splinter cell. not to mention a truly flawed roster thanks to fake recruiting classes that did not materialize into actual players on the roster.
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