Started By
Message

re: Mizzou Fans, Will Arkansas Become Your New Archrival?

Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

I just hope no one designs a trophy


I think they should design a trophy. Given both states' propensity for methamphetamine, the choice of a crystal football seems natural.

This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:10 pm to
While Mizzou and Arky fans have joked about the Meth Bowl a few times I notice there is a... fascination if you will... on the subject from Alabama fans. Lots of "Hahaha you guys make meth... you can hook me up right?" vibes coming from Bama right now.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:11 pm to
I'm not looking to get any. I'm scoping out the competition.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Arkansas took the best basketball coach they have had since Norm.

And we were happy to give him to yall. I know you don't believe us, but we were.


The amount of whining Missouri fans did when Mike came home begs to differ. There is still a raw spot with most Missouri folks when they realize that he couldn't wait to have the opportunity to come home. If you were "happy to give him" to us, then the level of venom when he left would not have been near what it was.

quote:

The Cotton Bowl says "bonjour." And what else have we played yall for something "important?"


If you honestly believe that game was important to Arkansas, then you really do need to re-calibrate your version of reality. Six weeks prior to that game, Arkansas had just knocked off #1 at their place and taken the "golden handcuffs" off of HDN. After that, we could not have cared less about the Cotton Bowl. We had an interim coach who was a poor man's Orgeron. And that "three headed monster" of a backfield was only interested in not getting hurt. They were about to get paid and the last thing they needed was to get a cheap injury in a meaningless bowl. If it fits your narrative better, and it makes you Missouri folks feel better to think that the Cotton Bowl that year was of any significance to us whatsoever, then fine, keep repeating that to yourselves. But just know that it's just not true.
Posted by Hillbilly Joe
Member since Feb 2014
400 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

"Hahaha you guys make meth... you can hook me up right?"

Mizzou to the rescue

Got ya covered bruh..

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

If you were "happy to give him" to us, then the level of venom when he left would not have been near what it was.

It wasn't that he left. It was how. Ask Otto Porter's family about it.

quote:

If you honestly believe that game was important

It was the Cotton Bowl. If you're just going to pretend anything Mizzou beat Arky at isn't important then I can note you're an idiot and ignore you in the future.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Mizzou Fans, Will Arkansas Become Your New Archrival?


not unless they want to play their home game in STL..


(our Archrival is Illinois)


seriously I think we're done with the big rivalry crap for a while. Our final few matches with the redleg-yankees at Arrowhead were no where near sellouts, note NOT because Mizzou fans didn't show up in force.

With Tenn, Fl and SC all rebuilding in the East I don't see us in need of a "rival" class of game because all of those will be equally important for competing in the SEC.
Posted by Arkiebarkie
Fayetteville,Ar
Member since Jan 2013
756 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:07 pm to
Arkansas just needs to win every game the rest of the way. MOO Tigas just happen to be NEXT!

I don't dislike Moo fans, they're just a cute little fanbase. They are no where near as stupid as the rest of the conference. (disclaimer)

As Danny Ford told us, the SEC will slit your throat and drink your blood, he was correct.

But, I would not want to be in any other conference. We are stupid over our teams because we care more than any conference in America!

That being said, Frick Off!
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

It was the Cotton Bowl. If you're just going to pretend anything Mizzou beat Arky at isn't important then I can note you're an idiot and ignore you in the future.


Nobody is pretending, chief. Arkansas has been to a LOT of Cotton Bowls. You have to put that particular Cotton Bowl in perspective. Disappointing, turmoil-filled season. Just unloaded a coach that had multiple first-rounders and managed to lose 4 games. The Cotton Bowl was just not that important that year. It just wasn't. Anyone who says differently is lying. Or from Missouri. That Cotton Bowl was no more or less important to us that the Independence WeedEater Bowl we beat Missouri in.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

You obviously don't realize that some teams do improve as the season goes on. Arkansas looks a hell of a lot better to my biased and untrained eye than Missouri does at this point.


FIFY
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:17 pm to
As for speaking on the Arkansas side of things, I don't give a damn. It's forced and we have no reason to dislike them other than they're yankee as hell. Hell, the only reason the LSU rivalry developed was because every single one of our games was decided by a freaking field goal for a decade. I'd have much rather just kept the crossover with South Carolina. But getting a free win at the end of every year may come handy.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Mizzourah2006
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2013
289 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

The amount of whining Missouri fans did when Mike came home begs to differ. There is still a raw spot with most Missouri folks when they realize that he couldn't wait to have the opportunity to come home. If you were "happy to give him" to us, then the level of venom when he left would not have been near what it was.


It's important to have the entire context when talking about this topic. Mizzou is not upset he left, but the way he left. He did not recruit at all his last year and then up and left. It would be one thing if the guy actually tried to keep the program running before he left, no hard feelings for leaving for the job you have always wanted. But to do what he did to the program and then leave left a lot of Mizzou fans upset.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

But to do what he did to the program and then leave left a lot of Mizzou fans upset.


Not flaming... I want an honest answer. What if he had said when his name was first mentioned, "Y'know, I spent a lot of time at Arkansas and I have some fond memories there. I'd be a fool not to explore it." How many Missouri fans would have said, "Don't let the door hit ya"?

And let's say for a minute everything played out exactly as it did, but before he boarded that plane, he asked the AD for an opportunity to meet with the players and tell them "bye." First, do you think that meeting would have been granted? I don't. And I don't think any Missouri fans would have thought that was the "right" way to leave either.

My point is, there is not one single thing Mike could have done to please most Missouri fans. Their anger isn't with "how" he left. That is the smokescreen to mask the sting that a school they tell themselves is "inferior" to them has taken their coach.
Posted by throwingoranges
Member since Jul 2014
555 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:27 pm to
Arkansas is not a rivalry any more than Tennessee or South Carolina or Georgia is a rivalry for us.

Will Mizzou ever have a rival in the SEC? Don't know. It seems like Arky hasn't really developed one since being added, and the only reason South Carolina seems to have a few is more because of Spurrier than the team.

Kansas is a rival. Nebraska is a rival. Even Illinois (for STLers) is something of a rival. But not any SEC teams yet.

Right now, I think a lot of Mizzou fans would say that the SEC as a whole is the closest thing to a current rival. Every week it's the same old boy's club versus the new kid stuff.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

to think that the Cotton Bowl that year was of any significance to us whatsoever,


because of all those SEC championships and bigger bowls you've been playing in since then,, am I right!





Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

My point is, there is not one single thing Mike could have done to please most Missouri fans.


All he had to change for me was not stealing a paycheck from January on and not telling Otto Porter that he would definitely be coaching Missouri one day and within 24 hours be announced as the Arkansas coach.
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33330 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:40 pm to
Yeah the way he left Mizzou was pretty bad but we were offering him a lot more money. He cares more about his family and their future than keeping a promise to Mizzou fans.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

lot more money


10%, sure. That's a minimum to make a move for me.
Posted by Mizzourah2006
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Nov 2013
289 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

My point is, there is not one single thing Mike could have done to please most Missouri fans. Their anger isn't with "how" he left. That is the smokescreen to mask the sting that a school they tell themselves is "inferior" to them has taken their coach.


I'm not talking about leaving the program itself, more leaving the program in shambles. He made no effort to recruit his final year, none whatsoever. Meaning he only did half his job and then left, convincing a couple of STL kids to come down with him.

I'm sure some Mizzou fans would have been pissed regardless, but I can tell you from my perspective and from most graduates I know what upset them the most was the fact he didn't bother recruiting at all his final year.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

because of all those SEC championships and bigger bowls you've been playing in since then,, am I right!

Yea you actually are... the Sugar Bowl.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter