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re: MIzzou and aTm hate
Posted on 10/31/12 at 4:54 pm to daboman of Aggieland
Posted on 10/31/12 at 4:54 pm to daboman of Aggieland
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daboman of Aggieland
That fits with everything I heard as well. The PAC wasn't willing to include OSU and OU couldn't go without them. So, the deal was struck and they stayed.
And you're right - an OUN (SoonerTV?) would be a failure just like the LHN. I don't think any single school could make a network feasible - not even the illustrious Notre Dame. Conference networks are a different story. The SEC Network will be huge.
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:02 pm to semotruman
I can summon no emotional energy to hate a former Big 12 North, Big 8 Team. There is just no history there.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:03 pm to juff
quote:Possibly because Mizzou won the last two which have been played at pyle field and will be forced to go back for a third straight trip.
I had no idea Mizzou and aTm hated each so much. When did this start and why?
You can't tell me the SEC hasn't bent over backwards to placate aggy. They are going to be second only to bama in shaking up the SEC cause of Texas talent that SEC lives for.
Any rivalry would have to be forced since they never, or at least seldom, played each other before the Big 12 was forced to form in 1996 or whenever the wheat and corn conference was born. It was a shotgun marriage that resulted in messy divorces because UT ruled but that is slipping :)
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:14 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
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You can't tell me the SEC hasn't bent over backwards to placate aggy
Honestly, I think we wanted to be back at Kyle this year.
Still lots of players on our roster that were promised games in Texas, getting a game down there sounded like a priority for Pinkel when this was all going down. I wouldn't be surprised if we asked for the game to be there.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:32 pm to mograyback
How does this happen? 3 years in a row. How did even back to back meetings at Kyle happen?
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:41 pm to juff
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How does this happen? 3 years in a row. How did even back to back meetings at Kyle happen?
Back to back happened bc the Big12 went from a 2 division conference to 1. It was probably a scheduling issue last year, plus I don't think Pinkel minds having games in Texas.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:44 pm to juff
When the Big 12 still had divisions, we were scheduled to play A&M there in a cross-division game. Those rotated every two years, and were home and home games. So that was 2010. Then, in 2011, they went to no divisions since they lost 2 teams, and redid the schedules. It just worked out that they sent us there again.
Then we both move to the SEC. First year, we're scheduled with A&M as a cross-division rival game, and they decided to send us there first, on Thanksgiving weekend. So this is the 3rd year in a row we'll play there. In 2013, they come to Columbia on Thanksgiving weekend. Where hopefully, their fingers will freeze, and we'll win.
Then we both move to the SEC. First year, we're scheduled with A&M as a cross-division rival game, and they decided to send us there first, on Thanksgiving weekend. So this is the 3rd year in a row we'll play there. In 2013, they come to Columbia on Thanksgiving weekend. Where hopefully, their fingers will freeze, and we'll win.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 5:47 pm to juff
no hate. a mutual appreciation that both our programs got away from the viral Big12. I do hate mizzou for what they have done to us the past 4 years. last home game of the year, under the lights, at Kyle. will be rocking
Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:34 pm to semotruman
semotruman that is the best realignment info I have read in a while. Thanks, I needed my fix.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:40 pm to redleg82
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I can summon no emotional energy to hate a former Big 12 North, Big 8 Team. There is just no history there.
There it is, the only former SWC team I hate is Texas. I guess I'm not a big Baylor fan either, but mostly because they sucked for 100 years, had one good season and acted like a powerhouse.
I actually like A&M a lot and root for them when they're not playing against Mizzou. They just have some dipshit fans on the rant that came around after they started winning.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:51 pm to BreakawayZou83
In my defense I was here before we started winning.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:59 pm to BigAggie06
I don't know what kind of poster you are specifically but a lot of the new texags transplants are not my favorite. Having said that I'll always feel somewhat connected to A&M because of the whole leaving at the same time thing, and plus we would likely not have gotten a spot without y'all. 
Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:07 pm to cardboardboxer
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cardboardboxer
You're welcome, glad I could help.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 7:30 pm to BigD Ag
Dont care about mizzou.. never think about them throughout the year until game week. That cannot be said for our in state enemies in the past.
Hell, now that they are in the East, we still don't think about them.
Hell, now that they are in the East, we still don't think about them.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:49 pm to FightTigers
I don't deny that I post on TexAgs, but I stick to the pay sections not the crap free board.
That said, I don't know if I could be called a "TexAgs Transplant" considering I have been around longer than most Mizzou fans on here.
That said, I don't know if I could be called a "TexAgs Transplant" considering I have been around longer than most Mizzou fans on here.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 8:58 pm to FightTigers
I have no bad feelings about Mizzou at all.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:13 pm to semotruman
Semo:
What do you know about Denton, flying to College Station, with Boren? Our sources say that they were making a last minute plea to us to stay in the Big 12-2.
They flew in an OU aircraft and we all tracked it on the Flight Aware website.
There were even pictures of the aircraft posted on Texags. It had distinct OU markings.
I understand Boren making the trip but if Denton was so Big 12-2, what was Denton even doing on the plane? I realize he appointed (by Deloss Dodds), the Grand Pooh Bah of the conference.
A few days later Denton resigned his position and later Mizzou followed us to the SEC.
Did our Dr Bowen show Denton (& Boren) more financial stuff that Texas was trying to pull?
I would love for someone to write a book about all of this.
What do you know about Denton, flying to College Station, with Boren? Our sources say that they were making a last minute plea to us to stay in the Big 12-2.
They flew in an OU aircraft and we all tracked it on the Flight Aware website.
There were even pictures of the aircraft posted on Texags. It had distinct OU markings.
I understand Boren making the trip but if Denton was so Big 12-2, what was Denton even doing on the plane? I realize he appointed (by Deloss Dodds), the Grand Pooh Bah of the conference.
A few days later Denton resigned his position and later Mizzou followed us to the SEC.
Did our Dr Bowen show Denton (& Boren) more financial stuff that Texas was trying to pull?
I would love for someone to write a book about all of this.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:36 pm to agswin
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agswin
I don't know anything specific. But I believe when that happened, Deaton was beginning to really be torn between his employer, and his position as Chair of that committee. He had to evaluate whether 1) the Big 12 would even stay together, and 2) if it was the best place for Mizzou. And in his position of responsibility to the conference, could he help stabilize it even if Mizzou ultimately left? The trip to A&M was the first part of that.
Once it was obvious y'all were gone, it was only a few days before Mizzou announced they were exploring options and he recused himself from voting on realignment issues. Shortly after that, he stepped down as chair of that committee. He had nothing to do with bringing in WVU, and very little with TCU - I don't believe he even voted on TCU.
I gained a lot of respect for him during that process. He did his best for the conference we were in at the time until it became likely that we were leaving with you. He did what he could to keep it stabilized and get the best deal possible for the smaller schools - not that they'll ever thank him for it. He was extremely ethical about how he handled the whole thing.
I think another thing Texas underestimated was Deaton's relationships with the SEC. Brady Deaton is a UK alum, and good friends with the Florida's president. And, years ago, when there were some issues with athletics, an attorney named Mike Slive did some legal work for Mizzou.
There was also a story told about a basketball game Texas played at Mizzou before all the realignment stuff started. Deloss Dodds was there, and in a suite with our AD, Mike Alden. Apparently a not-so-suble warning was given. Deloss advised that we "Don't get into a pissing contest with Texas, because you'll lose." Then slapped him on the back and walked away. That kind of arrogance doesn't play well, and is remembered for a long time.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 10/31/12 at 10:57 pm to semotruman
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Apparently Deloss advised that we "Don't get into a pissing contest with Texas, because you'll lose."
I can believe that 100%. That is the way they are but they no longer have the power to do anything.
Now they are stuck with the Baylor's, Iowa State's, Kansas's etc of the world. Plus the have Purple Baylor (tcu) and the #1 and #2 couch burners in the world with Texas Tech and WVU.
Texas deserves it and the rest just want someone who will take them in. I have no idea what OU in doing in this mess. I am sure they are embarrassed. Now that Notre Dame told them to "pound sand", I give the Big 12-2-1-1+2, five years at the max.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 11:06 pm to agswin
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I have no idea what OU in doing in this mess.
As long as OU is tied to OSU, they're stuck and making the best of it. And Texas is going to have to lay low for a while, unless they want to be independent. No conference will take them on with the LHN, which they won't give up until they have to. And, no one wants to bring an ego like that into their conference. They've already killed two.
They might have been able to handle losing Colorado and Nebraska. But losing A&M and Missouri is a lot bigger blow than they'll ever publicly admit. And replacing us with TCU and WVU definitely no upgrade.
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