Miss State fans, are you starting to miss seeing Stans' boys in the huddle?

I think it has less to do with Stansbury/Ray than it does with the fact they only have like 8 players on their team. I think a couple are walk-ons as well.

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It was past time for Stans to go regardless of whether Ray is the correct answer or not.

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This.

The program had gotten stale under Stans and he was losing control at the end.

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Miss State fans, are you starting to miss seeing Stans' boys in the huddle?

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lolololololololololololol no

I'm pretty sure we have only 4 schools players right now actually playing. You know when Baxter goes legit PT there is a problem

No other program in the country was in the situation Rick Ray had to take over. He lost 4 scholarship players to season ending injuries before the season started. We have 6 scholarship players and 2 walk ons left on the team. He's actually suspended players for violating team rules (pot). And to be honest we have one legitimate D1 talent on the court right now. He is one hell of an x's and o's coach, but he has to use 3 managers to fill out the team in practice. It's gonna be a bitch.... but I feel like Ray will get us on the right track in 2 or so years.

so to wrap this thread up here, the answer is a big firm NO

Glad my name could be mentioned in this thread.

I respect everybody's opinion and I understand the heat that Stansbury got. Some good reasons, some just totally stupid and not informed. It seems that 1 issue eliminated all rationale.

Just a few examples:

MSU players on national TV fighting. Anti Stans people used that as a major reason for his retirement. It was an embarrassment. While that's true, it's not really an uncommon thing. As a friend and I talked about this week, it happens to the best of the programs out there. We were the only one to fire a coach who won 20+ games that this happened to.

Another reason used was the transferring of talent to other programs. This too happens to the top programs. A comparison: MSU had 13 players transfer out in the same amount of time, Duke had 10.

What is totally BS is that Stansbury left MSU with nothing. Like him or hate him, that's not true. If you want to be honest, the situation falls more on the AD. When Stansbury retired, we had a decent roster:

Hood (now at Duke) transferred coaching change
Lewis
D Smith Transferred (doing well)
S SMith Was dismissed
Steele
Zeidaks Was dismissed
Ware
Thomas
Sword
Gray Released due to coaching change (believe he set a freshman record where he is at now)

None of those are the fault of Stansbury. Had Stansbury been given another year, the only ones off the team from that would be Smith and Zeidaks. No need in going into other recruits.

Had he stayed, the dismissals of Smith and Zeidaks would have been the end of the world! Stansbury is gone and MSU has to move on.

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CRR. I agree that he has MSU players playing hard. I like his interaction with the players during game time. See my pic below.

I do not think we should have ever hired him however. I feel we are past the point of hiring a coach with no HC experience in basketball. I also do not like some of the things he has done.

1- I 100% agree with building endurance. I believe in pushing athletes. No issues with that. My issue is there is a limit. Especially in basketball. I do believe his method has resulted in injuries due to going way beyond those limits.

2- We have a team, as pointed out by all, that has no bench and few scholarship players. They are fatigued. The schedule they play is not going to allow them to recoup. ESPN Quote: "He ran them through a 3 hour long practice yesterday". That was the day before Vandy... the lowest points scored in the shot clock era.

I could post link after link to medical journals and sports medical journals of research from all over the world about fatigue and ACL tears in athletes. To sum those up, Muscle fatigue will result in your muscles not being able to stabilize your joints properly . It then falls on the ligaments and they are not designed to take that. Then there is Mental fatigue. Ever done poorly at your job or on a test because you just can't concentrate? Basically the same thing. Then most important is Central fatigue. The results of all of the research shows a measurable difference in the landing mechanics when athletes are fatigued.

We had 2 ACLs and another ligament issue.. so 3 out of 12 players. The NBA currently only has 4 out 425ish.

I know as of this week, he did state that he was reducing practice. That's good news.

Standsbury won only 1 NCAA Tourney game in his last 7 years as coach and left the program in a damn mess

No

darkhorse