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re: Mike Bianco gets Extension

Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:46 am to
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:46 am to
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If we had fired him and brought in someone new, we would still suck next year. We won't be talented at all, so might as well let Bianco really shite the bed (like miss the SEC Tournament and shite - because that's what I expect to happen) so bad that firing him becomes a non-controversial move.


Quality points here. I see the entire dropoff as a pretty simple thing...

Bianco just doesn't evaluate "gamesmanship" as well as McDonnell did(does). Bianco/Godwin are recruiting just as well as OM ever has on paper. The players just haven't been in the same mold as competitors -- as such, they do not respond as well to pressure. Those few games/plays are literally the only difference between this year's OM team and most of the "successful" teams of years past.
Posted by TupeloReb
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:52 am to
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. Those few games/plays are literally the only difference between this year's OM team and most of the "successful" teams of years past.

You are wrong there. Our hitting was worse than it has ever been and our bullpen gave up the lead 50% of the time. So I wouldn't come anywhere close to saying that was the only reason why we sucked
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:57 am to
Bianco himself doesn't respond well to adversity, and it trickles down to his players.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:57 am to
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You are wrong there. Our hitting was worse than it has ever been and our bullpen gave up the lead 50% of the time. So I wouldn't come anywhere close to saying that was the only reason why we sucked


Yet, if you close out a 6-0 lead with Wahl on the mound against MSU -- and win one more somewhere along the line in the SEC -- you are hosting and all is well.

This OM team is just as talented on paper as they've practically ever been. They are just a bunch of mental midgets -- instead of gamers that get better when the bright lights come on.

You graduated 75% of your production at the plate last year. It was foolish as hell to think you wouldn't struggle in that regard. Some guy on rivals ran the expected runs tables and everyone suddenly thought that you were going to replace that production.

You've got alot coming back -- and alot of talent coming in. Time will tell if they are any "tougher" mentally.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:58 am to
thank god we dodged the Bianco bullet
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:00 pm to
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Bianco himself doesn't respond well to adversity, and it trickles down to his players.



That's true.

For all the things we(rightly) bitch at Cohen about -- this is probably his single strongest trait as a coach. And let's be honest -- we're not where we are right now without Butch Thompson as well, who I'm scared shitless Auburn is going after.

Time will tell if Cohen does this well enough to overcome his overmanaging and personnel decisions to get us over the hump and back to Omaha...
Posted by geauxrebs
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:00 pm to
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You've got alot coming back -- and alot of talent coming in. Time will tell if they are any "tougher" mentally.


This. We avoided the draft bigtime with guys like JB Woodman, Errol Robinson, and Evan Anderson. All are going to raise the talent level and force our current players to step up their game or take a seat.

Posted by RebelFreeze48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1963 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:03 pm to
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You graduated 75% of your production at the plate last year. It was foolish as hell to think you wouldn't struggle in that regard.


I agree here. I came into this season thinking we were going to be just straight up terrible. I didn't even think we would have been good enough to make a Regional. The talent ended up being there....the talent just couldn't deliver when it absolutely needed to.
Posted by TupeloReb
Member since Nov 2012
10743 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:08 pm to
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This OM team is just as talented on paper as they've practically ever been. They are just a bunch of mental midgets -- instead of gamers that get better when the bright lights come on.
I pretty much agree with what you said except this. Last years team isn't anywhere near the teams with Stephen Head, Zach Cozart, Chris Coughlan, Alex Presley, Mark Wright, Justin Brasheer, etc. That's like comparing grown men to little boys
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:48 pm to
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I pretty much agree with what you said except this. Last years team isn't anywhere near the teams with Stephen Head, Zach Cozart, Chris Coughlan, Alex Presley, Mark Wright, Justin Brasheer, etc. That's like comparing grown men to little boys


I'm not talking about what you actually see on the college field in games. I'm talking about from the scouting side... as in measurables, high school production, what you can see in practice. If you "see both sides", it's sometimes shocking the extent that those things don't translate into the actual game. Those are all just as good on this Ole Miss team as any in the past--and that's coming directly from one of the names you listed above this preseason.

It's another level to scouting and coaching involving "dealing with pressure and adversity" and that's where your shortcoming has been IMO
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted by TupeloReb
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:17 pm to
Yes, one of our many shortcomings.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:52 pm to
The Ole Miss admin is clearly satisfied with mediocrity.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:55 pm to
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The Ole Miss admin is clearly satisfied with mediocrity.



Look, another imbecile who clearly doesn't get it.

We were in the top-25 for the whole season. We were a 2 seed in a regional. We had a .500 SEC record and finished in the middle of the conference.

That's definitely worse than what the fans and administration wanted, but you can't fire a guy after doing that because it makes hiring the next guy damn near impossible. Like I said earlier, Bianco or otherwise, we're going to suck next season. Might as well just let that happen and then fire him. It makes the replacement process really easy.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79617 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 3:57 pm to
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Look, another imbecile who clearly doesn't get


Gee, it's not just the Poli Board.

You're a prick here, too.
Posted by TupeloReb
Member since Nov 2012
10743 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 4:00 pm to
I think I showed you with my link and quotes from Ross Bjork to where he clearly said that this wasn't acceptable for Ole Miss baseball. Read the whole thread next time
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