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Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:29 pm to NYCAuburn
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Diluted, it suggest you are covering up something. many consider this a fail or require a retest
or he drank too much water.
so basically this thread is 9 pages for nothing. thanks SECrant
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:30 pm to Choctaw
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so basically this thread is 9 pages for nothing.
No, its considered a failed test, and he will be in the leagues drug program for his entire career. Next positive is 4 games.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:32 pm to TreyAnastasio
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No, its considered a failed test, and he will be in the leagues drug program for his entire career. Next positive is 4 games.
kind of harsh for drinking too much water. Goodell is such a dick
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:49 pm to TreyAnastasio
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and he will be in the leagues drug program for his entire career
not necessarily...he will meet with a counselor for an evaluation, then it will be determined what he has to do
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:51 pm to Choctaw
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kind of harsh for drinking too much water
No, seems the proper penalty for trying to cheat a drug test.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:52 pm to Choctaw
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so basically this thread is 9 pages for nothing. thanks SECrant
It's a failed test.
That's already been stated 50 times in this thread, but I thought you could use a 51st time.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:55 pm to TreyAnastasio
Probably already mentioned somewhere in these 9 pages, but for a Phishhead, you're much more critical about failing drug tests than I would have expected.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just I'm surprised at you being so unsympathetic.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just I'm surprised at you being so unsympathetic.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:55 pm to Choctaw
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or he drank too much water.
so basically this thread is 9 pages for nothing. thanks SECrant
Yes he could have, but its considered an abnormal amount and also considered a failed test, because essentially there was no urine to test, because he didnt provide it. Which is why they usually require another test
Posted on 5/6/14 at 1:59 pm to NYCAuburn
There are many reasons for a sample to be marked diluted. Not just drinking too much water.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:00 pm to Gamecox20
Water intoxication is sweeping the nation.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:00 pm to AgCoug
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Probably already mentioned somewhere in these 9 pages, but for a Phishhead, you're much more critical about failing drug tests than I would have expected.
I have no sympathy for guys failing a drug test that they knew the date of.
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@LeCharlesBent65
The test isn't to see WHO uses drugs, it's assumed everybody does. The test is to see WHO's going go be the village idiot...
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:09 pm to TreyAnastasio
Courtesy of Pain Train
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:09 pm to Prof
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There are many reasons for a sample to be marked diluted. Not just drinking too much water.
What else dilutes the drug test besides water?
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:11 pm to TreyAnastasio
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I have no sympathy for guys failing a drug test that they knew the date of.
True, can't argue that.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:14 pm to NYCAuburn
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What else dilutes the drug test besides water?
Masking agents.
Smuggling in someone else's urine.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:17 pm to DaleDenton
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Masking agents.
Smuggling in someone else's urine.
Those dont dilute, one is urine and one mask. dilution is lack of urine( or the proteins etc...)
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:22 pm to NYCAuburn
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Those dont dilute, one is urine and one mask. dilution is lack of urine( or the proteins etc...)
Cold Urine (smuggled in) is considered a diluted sample and a fail.
Some of the older masking agents, or wive's tails on how to mask, also comes back as a diluted sample and a fail.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:38 pm to NYCAuburn
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What else dilutes the drug test besides water?
Various masking agents like diuretics/water pills, diet pills, OTC medications and much more which essentially cause you to pee a lot and evacuate drugs out of your system and cause a dilute sample in the process. That's why when the Olympics roll around you hear of drug failures for all kinds of non-performance enhancing drugs that are on the IOC's banned list which is more inclusive than the NFL's. What a urine test measures to make sure it's urine is creatine - male atheletes in particular should have plenty of it. If there's little to no creatine in a sample it's not urine. You can also have hyper dilution, dilution, negative dilution (diluted sample but no drug present), and positive dilution (diluted sample but drug still present).
People also add things to urine to dilute it and depending upon how invasive the urine testing procedure is (and most aren't that invasive unless you've failed or come up dilute and they're watching you whiz) that can cause various results. And some legit medications can also mess up tests.
It's also worth noting this combine produced more fails than in recent years - more than 10 this year. LSU had two fails, FSU had multiples, Miami had one fail (surprised they only had one - they are Miami). It's not fair because it's guilt by association but it's never good when a team has more than one player fail.
LINK
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:52 pm to DaleDenton
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Smuggling in someone else's urine
that isn't considered diluting. It is exactly what it is....sneaking in anothers urine.
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