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re: Manziel vs Cam

Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
Huntsville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:10 pm to
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So you think Cam called the plays?


Im saying it has been mentioned that he didn't run the play that was called.
Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
333 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:16 pm to
To early to tell.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Texas A&M has better WRs/MUCH better Oline and better coaching than that Auburn team imo.


The OL I'd question, Auburn's OL that year was out standing. Auburn had better rushing numbers than ATM this year, Auburn averaged 125 more YPG than ATM did vs ranked teams.

Right now I'd say Cam but I wouldn't cry if I had JFF as my QB either.
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:24 pm to
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quote:
Texas A&M has better WRs/MUCH better Oline and better coaching than that Auburn team imo.


The OL I'd question, Auburn's OL that year was out standing. Auburn had better rushing numbers than ATM this year, Auburn averaged 125 more YPG than ATM did vs ranked teams.

Right now I'd say Cam but I wouldn't cry if I had JFF as my QB eith


I get what you're saying.

I think by the time JFF is a RS JR....yea probably take him over Cam.

Not sure I can off of this year.

He was shutdown against LSU and Florida (I give him a pass for the latter since it was early in the year)

JFF is awesome. Its just I never seen Cam "bad game" like JFF. Too bad Gus didnt let Cam throw more.
Posted by DubyaDE
Member since Nov 2012
503 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:25 pm to
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Too bad Gus didnt let Cam throw more


Why did he need to?
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:27 pm to
No one mentions Case Keenum who threw for the most yards in CFB history under Sumlin at Houston but is now MIA in the NFL i.e system QB

If Johnny can go undefeated, win the SEC championship and a NC before going pro, then be drafted #1 overall, break Payton Manning's rookie records, be named NFL ORY, and selected to the Pro Bowl as a rookie QB, then I will consider him better than Cam otherwise he's just the guy Aggies fap to before they go to bed at night
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 11:34 pm
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:28 pm to
Gus likes running the ball if he can. Auburns rush offense that year was amazing. The light came on for Cam in the second half of the iron bowl.

I think JFF with experience can be a great QB. Have to see as there is usually a sophomore slump but you never know.

Either way he's an outstanding QB this year.
Posted by townestoldme2
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2012
499 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:34 pm to
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If Johnny can go undefeated, win the SEC championship,and a NC before going pro, then be drafted #1 overall, break Payton Manning's rookie records, be named NFL ORY, and selected to the Pro Bowl as a rookie QB, then I will consider him better than Cam


fair

quote:

otherwise he's just the guy Aggies fap to before they go to be at night


yeah, he's just a guy...
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 11:35 pm
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:36 pm to
I got to take Cam's size over little Johnny but I respect the kid more.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:40 pm to
Manziel. Easily. You'd have him for three years instead of one and he hasn't brought disgrace to A&M.
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
Huntsville
Member since Feb 2011
3656 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:45 pm to
Why do you have the stepfather of one of the WM3. That guy is crazy
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:47 pm to
How much is each of them worth? I'll take the least expensive.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Why do you have the stepfather of one of the WM3. That guy is crazy


You're the first to notice.

Was having a conversation about the WM3 and just . . I dunno. Thought it was more interesting than Gene Stallings. Plus he looks like a typical Bama fan.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:50 pm to
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So you think Cam called the plays?


My "sources" -- for what it's worth, granted -- say his nickname was "Coach Cam."

And, given the before-and-after results, I don't doubt it.

Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:53 pm to
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My "sources" -- for what it's worth, granted -- say his nickname was "Coach Cam."

You just went full Gump. Never go full Gump
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
Huntsville
Member since Feb 2011
3656 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:55 pm to
Did you see all 3 documentaries? I was pretty young in 94 when the first one appeared. I always thought he did it. After watching the last one I am thinking the other stepfather did it. I would like to see a follow up of where they are now.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:57 pm to
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You just went full Gump. Never go full Gump


Right. Because things were just spectacular before and after Cam was on the field.

It is obvious the players had no respect for Gene Chizik. They got on the Cam Train and rode it to glory.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:58 pm to
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Did you see all 3 documentaries? I was pretty young in 94 when the first one appeared. I always thought he did it. After watching the last one I am thinking the other stepfather did it. I would like to see a follow up of where they are now.


I did. I like how they changed gears on their prime "suspect" from one documentary to the next. I don't know how to feel about the whole thing--the ring leader was a real freak. Sure it was handled poorly but he was no boy scout. But both of the step dads were shady too.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2529 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:00 am to
I don't see JFF staying healthy and playing every week in the SEC. Hell of a player though
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:03 am to
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Cam did what he wanted when he wanted and nobody could stop him.


Aside from 2 games early in the season, can you really not say the same thing about JFF?
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