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re: LSU, UF… Just Man Up and Stop Whining - Permanent Opponents Article
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:37 pm to 167back
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:37 pm to 167back
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To read bama fans in the offseason, bama's new starters are actually better and more athletic than the guy they are replacing. The tide doesn't replace they reload. New starters are never a factor.
Would you really like me to do this, because I'm going to.
Jesse Williams is gone.
Brandon Ivory replaces him.
Has more experience than Jesse at Nose, but not near as good.
Jeoffrey Pagan is replacing Square as a starter at End, Pagan played about as much as Square last year, most people have always agreed that Pagan is a more physically gifted player than Square, do you disagree with that?
Ed Stinson is back.
CJ Mosley is back full time.
Trey DePriest is back full time.
Adrian Hubbard is back.
Xzavier Dickson is back, he and Devall, who played a lot last year, will be a two headed monster at Jack.
Deion Belue is back, and just like all our other CBs in their second year, it looks like he's ready for the big jump.
John Fulton should be healthy by the time the season starts, he played a lot last year and looked good.
Geno Smith is back, will play Star, played that role from the A&M game onward, did alright.
HaHa is back, had five picks last year, currently getting first round hype.
Vinnie is back, won't be at Star anymore, just SS and Money, he'll fit better there.
Nick Perry is back, had a great Spring, should be improved.
So we don't lose much, I'd say the only places that will have a drop off will be the NG position and the number one CB position, but the CB unit as a whole will be better. And we're staaaaacked at Safety and LB.
I'll do offense too.
AJ's back, two rings, he's thrown 49 TpiDs in his career and only 8 INTs.
Yeldon is back, probably the second best RB in the nation. Top five at worst.
Cooper is back, top five WR nationally.
The rest of our WRs are back.
CyKo is back, will be a top ten draft pick.
Steen is back, only gave up one sack all last year.
Ryan Kelly replaces Jones, he's got upside, but isn't near as experienced and this year definitely will show drop off at the C position.
Arie Kouandjio should step in at LG, may be a bit more athletic than Warmack, but not as powerful. Drop off at LG.
Shep looks to be the starter at RT, experienced, but not as talented as other guys. Drop off at RT.
Vogler replaces BMW at TE, definite drop off, Michael was an amazing blocker at TE.
OJ Howard replaces Kelly Johnson at H-Back, instant upgrade.
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bama got their bye week the week they wanted it right? Saturday before LSU.
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bama palyed georgia st the week before auburn. Were they even D1? That games was moved up to thursday giving bama extra couple of days to prepare for iron bowl. How much time you think saban spent gameplanning for auburn the week of georgia st?
Probably a lot, and one of the best CFB players ever beat him. I'm shocked.
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Great you beat the gators and blew a 20 something point lead to auburn. WOW.
Yep. I remember it. I was there. Fun first half.
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It doesn't change the fact that the ONE time saban plays the TOP TWO teams from the east, bama finishes FOURTH in the west.
So...you know that UF was shite in 2010, right?
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See how that works when you actually have to face a couple of top tier SEC teams from the east.
Remember how we beat all these other teams by wider margins than the likes of USCe, UGA, and UF?
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:40 pm to 167back
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It's not the fact that bama only lost one game against the top two from the east. It's the fact they actually had to play TWO QUALITY opponents.
The more games against top quality teams that have enough talent to beat you means eventually someone will.
What takes more out of a team over the long haul of a SEC season?
Having to play USC, UF, LSU and auburn or playing UK, Vandy, LSU and auburn?
Which schedule is likely to give you multiple losses?
You know that we haven't always had an easy schedule, don't you? You know they can't always go out of there way to make sure that Bama and LSU's schedules are fair side by side, there are 12 other teams in the SEC. I'd gladly welcome the chance to play UF, USCe, and UGA in the same season, because we'd beat all three of them with the 2013 team.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:44 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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You know they can't always go out of there way to make sure that Bama and LSU's schedules are fair side by side, there are 12 other teams in the SEC.
Just use division record to decide the division champion. Problem solved.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:45 pm to Duke
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Just use division record to decide the division champion. Problem solved.
Fine with me.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:49 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
It's the best solution for equity since there has to be a conference championship. Even if PO are ended, someone is still going to get a shite draw every now and then.
Given the tradition of the UT/UA and UGA/AU games, it is unlikely those are ever going away. That's fine by me, because who doesn't love old time rivalries. The playoff solves any issues with a team getting an easier draw to the National Championship.
So everybody wins.
Given the tradition of the UT/UA and UGA/AU games, it is unlikely those are ever going away. That's fine by me, because who doesn't love old time rivalries. The playoff solves any issues with a team getting an easier draw to the National Championship.
So everybody wins.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 11:54 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Just use division record to decide the division champion. Problem solved.
That wont happen, because a lower ranked team could go to the SEC C.G. with more losses.
LSU's whining about unequal schedules with divisional crowns will be matched by the SEC's collective whining about unequal schedules with the playoff selections. What goes around, comes around.
Too bad for LSU; they get shafted both ways.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:02 am to Sheetbend
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That wont happen, because a lower ranked team could go to the SEC C.G. with more losses.
What if that's because they played the two best teams in the other division and the higher ranked team played the two worst?
You take the set of six (probably seven in the coming years) games that each team has against common opposition and see who comes out on top. That's the only fair way to do it.
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LSU's whining about unequal schedules with divisional crowns will be matched by the SEC's collective whining about unequal schedules with the playoff selections.
It won't be justified bitching, because it's hard to see a scenario where two SEC teams don't make the top four almost every year.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:16 am to Bamatab
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But leave the rivalries (at least the Bama/UT & UGA/barn) out of the discussion.
Why should the other 10 schools agree to play artificial "rivalry" games every year just to maintain tradition for these four schools?
The conference is changing. Out with the old. In with the new. frick the rivalries.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:23 am to TxTiger82
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Out with the old. In with the new. frick the rivalries.
Nope. Rivalries and tradition make CFB great. The NFL will never compare to the pageantry of College Football because it isn't as intense, it doesn't have the traditions. Anyone who says "frick the rivalries" isn't a real CFB fan.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:25 am to Garfield
UA/AU to the East and Mizzou/UK to the West would solve this nicely.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:33 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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UA/AU to the East and Mizzou/UK to the West would solve this nicely.
Nah, no need to change divisions. I wouldn't mind playing UF and UGA every year, that'd be fun, but we've been in the SEC West, don't want that to change.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:35 am to Duke
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It won't be justified bitching, because it's hard to see a scenario where two SEC teams don't make the top four almost every year.
Only in situations as we had in 2011, but that will happen very rarely. Bama was so dominate in all their games with the exception of their seasonal game with LSU, and they lost by the slimmest of margins in OT. How often will that happen in the future? Virtually never in the SEC; more likely in other conferences, but still rare.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:38 am to Sheetbend
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Only in situations as we had in 2011
2012 had Alabama and Florida in the top four before the bowls.
Almost certain 2008 and 2009 had both Alabama and Florida in the top four going into bowl season. Assuming that is correct, four of the past five seasons have seen two SEC teams in the top four going into bowl games. If my memory is wrong, my last two sentences are meaningless.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:39 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Hey cool you really didn't have to type all that crap. My comment about returning talent was in response to what you typed about the tide only returning ONE starter on the 2010 defense.
Forgive my ignorance but what's a jack, star and money??? Never head of those positions on a football field.
Doesn't change the fact that the gators were the #2 team in the east in '10 and the ONE TIME saban faced the top two from the east bama finished FOURTH in the west.
Sorry, my bad. While at bama, saban has faced the top two from the east twice. Besides finishing fourth in the west facing top two from the east he finished FIFTH the other time.
Forgive my ignorance but what's a jack, star and money??? Never head of those positions on a football field.
Doesn't change the fact that the gators were the #2 team in the east in '10 and the ONE TIME saban faced the top two from the east bama finished FOURTH in the west.
Sorry, my bad. While at bama, saban has faced the top two from the east twice. Besides finishing fourth in the west facing top two from the east he finished FIFTH the other time.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 12:48 am
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:39 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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I wouldn't mind playing UF and UGA every year,
That's nice. I don't think this wish will happen anytime soon.Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:55 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
"best" two teams should always play for national title.
Sorry bud, that's not how the BCS was set up. Their only goal was to get #1 VS #2. That's not necessairly the best two teams.
Or do you believe OK St was BETTER than bama because they sure would have been in the championship game if they beat who was it Iowa St?
Boise would have been ahead of bama also if they go undefeated.
Sorry bud, that's not how the BCS was set up. Their only goal was to get #1 VS #2. That's not necessairly the best two teams.
Or do you believe OK St was BETTER than bama because they sure would have been in the championship game if they beat who was it Iowa St?
Boise would have been ahead of bama also if they go undefeated.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 12:59 am to 167back
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Or do you believe OK St was BETTER than bama because they sure would have been in the championship game if they beat who was it Iowa St?
If my aunt had no genitals she'd be my uncle/aunt.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 1:07 am to Duke
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2012 had Alabama and Florida in the top four before the bowls. Almost certain 2008 and 2009 had both Alabama and Florida in the top four going into bowl season.
When the choice is between the Pac-10 winner with 11-1 vs Florida, the runner up in the SEC East, I expect the selection committee will take the Pac-10 champ 9 times out of 10.
The SEC is about to learn the playoffs start with their divisional titles--loser is out of the playoffs.
If that is not the situation, being the runner up in your SEC division could be an easier way to the playoffs by missing the SEC C.G.
The reason why there is a selection committee is to insure more conferences get to play for the championship and to allow non-BCS teams to get in also.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 1:16 am
Posted on 5/8/13 at 1:09 am to Sheetbend
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When the choice is between the Pac-10 winner with 11-1 vs Florida, the runner up in the SEC East, I expect the selection committee will take the Pac-10 champ 9 times out of 10.
I see your point. It of course depends on the quality of the major conference champions.
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If that is not the situation, being the runner up in your SEC division could be an easier way to the playoffs by missing the SEC C.G.
Last year proved it was an easier path into a BCS bowl game.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:38 am to 14&Counting
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LSU fans? stop whining? ain't going to happen....
The collective hypocritical whining from the same SEC fans about certain teams making the 4-way playoff will be amusing.
"But how can their schedule be compared to an SEC schedule?"
Just play your schedules, shut up, and stop whining.
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