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re: LSU problems is it Miles or Cam.

Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:56 am to
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9704 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:56 am to
LSU' s problems are a combination.
First, LSU' s expectations are too high. The fans believe every year the talent is super human when in reality it's about where everybody else is. If you look at history other than a few year stretch LSU is a 8,9 win team. They had a run but everybody does. Their program history doesn't bear out what fans expect.

Philosophy- Not sure what it is but they are continually whipped up front because they have smaller players but try to play smash mouth. They played right into a significantly less talented but better schemes wiscy teams wheelhouse.

DISCIPLINE- this has always what I thought was miles biggest issue. I heard Jimmy Johnson say u get what u expect. Kids are kids and will do nothing if not forced to do it on the football field. I don't see respect for miles from his players but actually see players who view him as a friend. When was the last time u saw him get somebody's arse after a missed assignment? He does that stupid thing of trying to hold his players back coming out of the tunnel. That's playing around. His players aren't afraid of him. Vince Lombardi said football is 20 percent talent, 10 percent scheme and 70 percent son of a bitch. Belichick said a coach is a dictator. Miles is viewed as a great players coach well so was mike Dubose. Those guys generally underachieving. Players need to be on edge, afraid of film study because of getting bitched out, and pucker up when they see the coach coming their way. He's a good guy and that's great but those guys aren't good coaches, they are good insurance salesmen. Yesterday's late hit shows the lack of discipline. Saban would have whipped that guys arse right on the field for that cheap shot. I have never seen miles get in a player's face, He just claps. There's no intensity from the players because they aren't afraid they're gonna piss him off. That player yesterday was talking shite to an asst coach after the hit. Where was miles? He should have been all in his arse. He was staying out of it. He has a problem with confronting his players.
Posted by Arena30
Youngsville
Member since Jul 2015
770 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:22 am to
Miles is the marionettist, cam is the marionette.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12464 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:25 am to
Both are Michigan retreads. They will get you killed on the road.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:27 am to
Unfortunately, LSU has more than one problem.

Probably 99, but a quarterback ain't one
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20434 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:27 am to
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Idk. Let's fire both to be safe


This.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13174 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:57 am to
LSU just needs a good mobile QB and a wide-open offense. Exhibit A: just look at what difference a QB change made to Alabama's offense.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:02 pm to
Both because Miles is the HC & Cam follows his friend/boss like a puppy. So Miles' philosophy sucks & Cam isn't man enough to stand up to him or walk out like the other OC's did when they got tired of the BS. Not to mention that Cam still hasn't been able to develop a QB to run this hot mess of an offense.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19088 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:05 pm to
Taint neither. It's lousy QB and OL play.
Posted by CocknDawg
Near Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:12 pm to
If "Third and long, Charlie Strong" doesn't win at least nine games, the Meyer disciple is headed for Austin. If UTsr does win the nine, then Herman can be had. But he is going to cost you. Then again, Herman is awfully picky. And LSU is one of the six or so most pressure-filled jobs around.

We offered him way more money than he is earning this season. And being Saban's second rival is not enticing.

But I hope y'all make a great change. Always liked LSU.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:20 pm to
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...Miles to stubborn...

No... It is not stubbornness. Miles is literally stupid. He honestly doesn't know how to do anything else and he really doesn't understand any of what goes on in modern football. All that eat grass, incomprehensible babble, fractured retarded statements, goofiness...it isn't an act. The man simply is very intellectually limited and it has been evident for a long time.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33150 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:27 pm to
both... there is no way Cam Cameron should have been hired back at LSU.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:28 pm to
It's Les
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12314 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
frick all the trendy insights. It's time for a housecleaning.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:45 pm to
JC Dawg. U hit the nail in the head
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63517 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:06 pm to
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LSU' s problems are a combination. First, LSU' s expectations are too high. The fans believe every year the talent is super human when in reality it's about where everybody else is. If you look at history other than a few year stretch LSU is a 8,9 win team. They had a run but everybody does. Their program history doesn't bear out what fans expect.


LSU has a lot of problems currently, but this isn't one of them. LSU truly brings in elite players (you can't argue the product we place in the NFL year after year). Expectations are on par with the talent. The program's overall history may not bear this out, but certainly modern history does.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5696 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:15 pm to
Both! Also add BDP, our special teams coach. They all need to go. Sad situation for LSU right now.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:34 pm to
They just gotta give them more time. 5 year extension please.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94674 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:40 pm to
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You can't open up an offense when Harris is the worst quarterback in the entire county.




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You can't open up an offense when Jennings is the worst quarterback in the entire county.



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You can't open up an offense when Jefferson is the worst quarterback in the entire county.



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You can't open up an offense when Lee is the worst quarterback in the entire county.




Seeing the pattern here? There's only 1 constant and it's not the QB, it's not the OC
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2223 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:43 pm to
They are two peas in a POD.
Posted by Touchettiger1990
Saginaw, Michigan
Member since Aug 2014
208 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 1:45 pm to
Miles and isn't even close. Same offense same old confused looking Les! It's embarrassing that they just keep the status quo on the O side and make changes in the only area that has been good and the reason why LSU is even in games
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