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re: LSU has recruiting violations? Say it ain't so...
Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:29 am to LSUNV
Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:29 am to LSUNV
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The NCAA as yet to make a ruling The SEC is upholding a NCAA rule that will ultimately be left up to the NCAA after the investigation
Why would the SEC change to whatever the NCAA rules on this? Remember Valentine was OK'd by the NCAA and the SEC didn't OK him.
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:31 am to pankReb
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Doesn't surprise me that the NCAA ignores blatant cheating...
Learn the difference between cheating and a rules violation.
Most schools have some type of rule violation unknown, known and unreported or known and self reported. In this case LSU did violate the rule and self reported so how is this cheating. Cheating would have been an attempt to conceal the violation so with your statement you are actually saying LSU runs a clean program
Lets change the sport and use Golf as an example.
After a round of golf each player checks his card and signs the card and approves his score. If the player hurries and does not really pay close attention and the card is found to be incorrect then the player is disqualified.
All golfers would not call this player a cheater only careless
Someone at LSU is guilty of being careless of knowing the rule. It really does not matter seems LSU has identified the problem and will pay the price.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 7:02 am to LCTFAN
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Lets change the sport and use Golf as an example.
After a round of golf each player checks his card and signs the card and approves his score. If the player hurries and does not really pay close attention and the card is found to be incorrect then the player is disqualified.
All golfers would not call this player a cheater only careless
Lol what? You can't be serious. So its okay to not follow the rules as long as you don't know them?
Ignorance of the law doesn't make you innocent. I didn't KNOW I couldn't have this ounce of cocaine, so you shouldn't arrest me officer!
I didn't KNOW I couldn't line up past the OL to get a head start, so please don't throw that flag ref!
That's such a bad example you used to. Anybody that's golfing beyond just a hobby and is competing shouldn't be so careless with something that could be so major. "Overlooking" a stroke could have a big impact on results. That's cheating whether or not you meant to or not. If the officials let that slide then what's to stop a golfer from "overlooking" a stroke and saying "oh my bad, I was just careless and forgot" if he happens to get caught.
Same with LSU. They signed this kid to an early financial aid agreement knowing damn well he wasn't solid but that they could get an advantage with unlimited contact. If they were just being careless then you need to hire somebody new to keep track of that stuff because they suck at their job. I don't buy that you didn't know anyway, because LSU self reported. Careless or not LSU still gained an unfair advantage in an ongoing recruitment and that is cheating.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:02 am to craigbiggio
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So the kid flips to Alabama and we get penalized? fricking REC
Mike Slive still putting in that work.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:30 am to Giantkiller
I haven't read this whole thread but I see a few posters taking the opportunity to take a shot at LSU. Those posters need to understand that this rule can bite ALL of us in the arse. Some high school kid has the power to take away recruiting time from a university.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:35 am to jmarto1
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I haven't read this whole thread but I see a few posters taking the opportunity to take a shot at LSU. Those posters need to understand that this rule can bite ALL of us in the arse. Some high school kid has the power to take away recruiting time from a university.
Yep, every school has kids sign FAA's, and many who commit elsewhere. LSU just self-reported.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:40 am to BowlJackson
The same school that paid Cam Newton is calling us cheaters for a minor rules violation?
You must be about ready to burst into flames....
You may be the biggest idiot allowed to post here.
You must be about ready to burst into flames....
You may be the biggest idiot allowed to post here.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 8:41 am
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:43 am to Cadello
Ignoring the Cam Newton bait, this seems like a pretty ticky tacky thing to get punished for. I read this was self reported but the SEC was already aware of the violation in another thread.
Recruiting is such a headache.
Recruiting is such a headache.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:50 am to higgs_boson
That wasn't bait, your team took a huge risk and was rewarded with a championship...
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:53 am to BowlJackson
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Ignorance of the law doesn't make you innocent. I didn't KNOW I couldn't have this ounce of cocaine, so you shouldn't arrest me officer! I didn't KNOW I couldn't line up past the OL to get a head start, so please don't throw that flag ref!
I wasn't aware recruiting violations were a matter of law and order.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:55 am to jmarto1
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I haven't read this whole thread but I see a few posters taking the opportunity to take a shot at LSU. Those posters need to understand that this rule can bite ALL of us in the arse. Some high school kid has the power to take away recruiting time from a university.
This forum was actually created for people to bitch about LSU. Don't know why that would change now.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:17 am to Cadello
It was bait and you know it. Provide a link to us paying Cam and showing we got in trouble for it. I'll wait.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:31 am to wadewilson
Yea, you're right.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:37 am to Cadello
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The same school that paid Cam Newton is calling us cheaters for a minor rules violation?
The NCAA investigated two schools. Only one was hit with sanctions. I'll let you do the math as to who actually did what they're accused of.
The only thing that the NCAA found in Cam Newton case was that MSU tried to pay him and he still didn't want to go there
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:38 am to Aman
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Just follow the regular contact rules no matter what and this doesn't ever come up. You say ringers could be setup to screw schools, but it works both ways. If there were no penalty schools could just have 25 kids sign FAA's in August, contact them all they want hoping they get a few.
Yeah I'm sure Bama is the bastion on following the rules. This should be a non issue. Simple as that.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:49 am to Indfanfromcol
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Bama paying kids to frick over LSU
Only reason they'd take a baby-faced frick of a 3* tackle. He wouldn't seen the field at Bama or LSU.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:51 am to BowlJackson
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BowlJackson
Coming from a Auburn Fan with the Cam Newton deal really are you calling LSU a cheater.
Comparing this to cocaine
It appears to me you are not a golfer, No golfer playing in a event would sign a incorrect scorecard. Everyone knows the score, typically a fellow golfer in the group keeps the score and many times they write the wrong score down either intentional or on accident. Just saying when the golfer signs the card he was careless and not cheating. You have no ideal what was going through LSU coaching staff on this case.
Not wanting to take a parting shot at Auburn fans but you have a hard head to miss the whole thread. Most comments are tying understand why and how this happened and my thought is Les Miles did the right thing when he found out someone contacted the recruit in question too much
If it makes you feel better call LSU a cheating team, I will assume you are a Bitter Auburn Fan and not a Auburn graduate
Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:56 am to LCTFAN
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Bitter Auburn Fan
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Auburn graduate
Not a massive IQ difference, I must say.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:09 am to Giantkiller
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Giantkiller
LSU has recruiting violations? Say it ain't so...
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So the kid flips to Alabama and we get penalized? fricking REC
Mike Slive still putting in that work.
And of course had Womack signed LOI and Financial Aid paperwork with Alabama, then "decommitted" , flipped to LSU and tweeted "Go Tigers", no Bama fan would have said AAAAAAAAAAAAAANYTHING..
Ok.
Then again, they wouldn't have had to because Bama's "Compliance Office" would NOT have self-reported this stupid incident like Bo Bahnsen did for LSU...
Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:03 am to BowlJackson
Just because you got away with it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
You are using the NCAA investigation as proof?
The NCAA is about as corrupt as they come.
Hell, they were probably paid off too.
The monies was given to his father under the rouse of charity.
But you guys already know that.
Good luck calling others cheaters, it only make you look hypocritical.
You are using the NCAA investigation as proof?
The NCAA is about as corrupt as they come.
Hell, they were probably paid off too.
The monies was given to his father under the rouse of charity.
But you guys already know that.
Good luck calling others cheaters, it only make you look hypocritical.
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