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re: LSU game shouldn't be held against Manziel

Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:20 pm to
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What game should we hold against him then? The Game Manager carved that secondary up.


No. No he didn't.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:20 pm to
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Don't forget about the rain.


Didn't stop mett from throwing darts into triple coverage for TD's...
Posted by JoeKines335
Tally
Member since Jan 2012
332 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:22 pm to
The entire A&M team didn't show up yesterday, Manziel included. That's on Sumlin. Yeah conditions were crap, but they didn't even seem to try after LSU got up 14-0.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:28 pm to
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He was very off yesterday, but their whole team seemed to be off.

I've been seeing this, but there's a reason for it.

LSU's DBs manned up against that tPOS Evans, checked him at the line and threw off their timing is why they looked off.

They were off because LSU's defense turned them off.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3839 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:30 pm to
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Don't forget about the rain.


I was in the stadium. Intermittent light showers/mist during the first quarter and then minimal to none the rest of the game; in fact zero the second half.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:35 pm to
A Heisman contender should be able to overcome adversity. I saw no fight from Johnny yesterday. It looks like he checked out like Clowney.
Posted by dgc
Member since Dec 2012
109 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:36 pm to
Okay, what word would you rather use for the 70% completion percentage and 3 TD's he threw on you guys then?

Either way, it was sure as hell a better showing than what JFF had to offer.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:36 pm to
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That's on Sumlin


Yep. Especially with the gameplan he was running, which was the worst I've seen from a Sumlin team.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:37 pm to
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What game should we hold against him then? The Game Manager carved that secondary up.



No. No he didn't.

70% completed 3 TDs 0 ints. Like a Thanksgiving turkey.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:40 pm to
If JFF wins the Heisman after that shite show yesterday the award will have lost any about of credibility.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24267 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:46 pm to
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I've been seeing this, but there's a reason for it.

LSU's DBs manned up against that tPOS Evans, checked him at the line and threw off their timing is why they looked off.

They were off because LSU's defense turned them off.


I agree to an extent. But like the guy catching the ball on a hop at the 8-yard-line on the kickoff when it was 100% going out of bounds...things like that. LSU's D played a very good game. But aTm did seem off. I'm used to seeing them make great catches, etc. They were dropping some easy ones on the few occasions when they were open.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24267 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:48 pm to
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A Heisman contender should be able to overcome adversity. I saw no fight from Johnny yesterday. It looks like he checked out like Clowney.



He's managed to overcome the aTm defense for a while now. You can't do it all by yourself.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:03 pm to
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He's managed to overcome the aTm defense for a while now. You can't do it all by yourself.


I believe this is true. This was the first game that A&M scored less than 41. Unreal.

How much more production should be expected from your QB?
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:07 pm to
It wasn't held against him last year, so why should this year be any different? Right? Still the best player in CFB. LSU just has his number.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36329 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:09 pm to
Give him another one. I would love to see a 2x Hesiman winner not beat LSU.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:13 pm to
I guess after talking to a lot of A&M fans last night, I just got the impression many were down on him. I told them how I felt- that they should appreciate what he's accomplished, and that a player like this kid just doesn't come around very often.
Despite some of things he received "notoriety" for in the press (which in reality probably aren't all that bad, anyway), he's been awfully fun to watch.

Even to the opposition.


Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:14 pm to
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I was in the stadium. Intermittent light showers/mist during the first quarter and then minimal to none the rest of the game; in fact zero the second half.


This. In the second half, the field was drier that Winston's nine month old DNA stains.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:36 pm to
Its hilarious that Bama fans feel like they have to make everything about them, even when the topic has zero to do with them. Some of you idiots on this board are tiresome.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:49 pm to
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I've been seeing this, but there's a reason for it.

LSU's DBs manned up against that tPOS Evans, checked him at the line and threw off their timing is why they looked off.

They were off because LSU's defense turned them off.


Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:51 pm to
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The entire A&M team didn't show up yesterday, Manziel included. That's on Sumlin. Yeah conditions were crap, but they didn't even seem to try after LSU got up 14-0.

I can buy this and upvoted your post.
LSU was the better team yesterday.
LSU earned their win and had an impressive performance.
I just think the results are being overblown.
Texas A&M didn't bring their A game. The defense didn't step up; LSU's did.
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