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re: LOTS of smoke coming from Aggie land that A&M to the SEC is done deal...

Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132545 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:36 pm to
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the higher up aggies know they are overrated and that going to the sec is going to turn bad for them.

They lost to arkansas freaking State.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:40 pm to
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If they are convinced of anything it seems to be that dealing with Texas + Espn doing whatever the hell they think is good for Texas/LHN


I always love it when a Husker fan jumps in to tell me how Texas is destroying the Big 12. A&M had voted lock-step, 100% of the time, along with Texas and on every major issue in the Big 12 (revenue sharing, conf HQ location, conf title game location, etc). In fact, every conference member voted lock-step with Texas (even Colorado) on every vote. The Big 12 didn't have a Texas problem, it had a Nebraska problem.

Now, aggie is all in a lather about the network (which it has known was coming for years) and HS football games being broadcast on the network (which was announced in January, but nobody cared until the season got close) but a Husker is in no position to talk about single school networks since your own administration admitted that Nebraska was further along than Texas in developing its own network before you guys ran off to join the Big 10........and after losing 9 games in 10 tries to Texas, I do mean ran off......
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:48 pm to
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I always love it when a Husker fan jumps in to tell me how Texas is destroying the Big 12. A&M had voted lock-step, 100% of the time, along with Texas and on every major issue in the Big 12 (revenue sharing, conf HQ location, conf title game location, etc). In fact, every conference member voted lock-step with Texas (even Colorado) on every vote. The Big 12 didn't have a Texas problem, it had a Nebraska problem.

Now, aggie is all in a lather about the network (which it has known was coming for years) and HS football games being broadcast on the network (which was announced in January, but nobody cared until the season got close) but a Husker is in no position to talk about single school networks since your own administration admitted that Nebraska was further along than Texas in developing its own network before you guys ran off to join the Big 10........and after losing 9 games in 10 tries to Texas, I do mean ran off......


So other than a pissing match between Neb and Tex, this pointless.

I think UT folks know that those around them are lookign for ways out. It'll work out best for everyone. UT can go independent, and continue to talk about how great they are to anyone that will listen, and on their own network, maybe someone will. And aTm can come play in the SEC and we'll have one more place to travel to away games. Seems like a winner to me.
Posted by huskers9
Member since Nov 2010
24 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:54 pm to
You are a complete moron.

Nebraska wasn't looking into it's own network so it could strong arm the conference members in moving conference games on it to make it succeed nor would they have had the backing of the monopoly network player in CFB to help it do so. Nor would it have likely been in the business of publicizing high-school recruits games.

Texas fans act like everyone out there operates like Texas, they don't. Not every school believes they can or should constantly sh*t where they sleep for short term maximizing of dollars at the expense of everyone that is forced to associate with them.

If the big 12 problems were solely a Nebraska problem, you wouldn't be seeing this come up again a week after Nebraska is gone and roar into another rumor firestorm within a month.

Retard.

This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19311 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:17 pm to
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Who would you want to be first in establishing a Super Conference? The SEC, Pac-12 or Big-12?


SEC. It's going to come eventually, better to be proactive and pick the teams you want, than to be reactive and get stuck with what you can salvage.

For example, what if there is no A&M/SEC deal? And as a result, the PAC-12 offers to take A&M without Texas, which decides to go independent. A&M decides that the SEC isn't interested, they see a way out from under Texas' shadow and bolt.

Now what does the SEC have in terms of options in capturing the Texas media markets? Rice/Houston and TCU/SMU? Tech and Baylor? UTEP and North Texas? Maybe live with LSU getting some Houston eyeballs and try for OU or OK State for some indirect penetration of the DFW market? Or say to hell with it and try to hammerlock the Florida market with FSU and Miami?

The PAC-12 is going to 16 teams at some point. Book it. And they already tried to corner the Texas media market last summer. They will try again.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2314 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:24 pm to
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Who would you want to be first in establishing a Super Conference? The SEC, Pac-12 or Big-12?
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SEC. It's going to come eventually, better to be proactive and pick the teams you want, than to be reactive and get stuck with what you can salvage.

For example, what if there is no A&M/SEC deal? And as a result, the PAC-12 offers to take A&M without Texas, which decides to go independent. A&M decides that the SEC isn't interested, they see a way out from under Texas' shadow and bolt.

Now what does the SEC have in terms of options in capturing the Texas media markets? Rice/Houston and TCU/SMU? Tech and Baylor? UTEP and North Texas? Maybe live with LSU getting some Houston eyeballs and try for OU or OK State for some indirect penetration of the DFW market? Or say to hell with it and try to hammerlock the Florida market with FSU and Miami?

The PAC-12 is going to 16 teams at some point. Book it. And they already tried to corner the Texas media market last summer. They will try again.


Spot on - it is imperative to keep looking ahead, especially when you are the top dog.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:28 pm to
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Nebraska wasn't looking into it's own network so it could strong arm the conference members in moving conference games on it to make it succeed nor would they have had the backing of the monopoly network player in CFB to help it do so.

I'm sure Nebraska had purely benevolent reasons for starting their own network.

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Nor would it have likely been in the business of publicizing high-school recruits games.

Because no one is interested in Nebraska high school football.

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Texas fans act like everyone out there operates like Texas, they don't. Not every school believes they can or should constantly sh*t where they sleep for short term maximizing of dollars at the expense of everyone that is forced to associate with them.

If Nebraska had been offered the same $300 million deal by ESPN, you are saying they would have turned it down?

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If the big 12 problems were solely a Nebraska problem, you wouldn't be seeing this come up again a week after Nebraska is gone and roar into another rumor firestorm within a month.

The LHN didn't exist when Nebraska was in the league. It is funny to hear A&M cry about fairness and equality among conference members when last summer they agreed to a new Big 12 revenue sharing model where A&M is guaranteed more TV revenue $ than 70% of the teams in the Big 12.
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:59 pm to
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It is funny to hear A&M cry about fairness and equality among conference members when last summer they agreed to a new Big 12 revenue sharing model where A&M is guaranteed more TV revenue $ than 70% of the teams in the Big 12.


You are a broken record of the same misinformation. That statement isn't true. A&M is pissed that UTa is trying to show HS recruits game on the LHN and that they are trying to show conference games on the LHN. It was agreed that HS games and conference games would not be shown. And you arrogant asshats are trying to do it anyway. You have 2 options, don't show it (which will breach the LHN contract you signed knowing it was agreed upon to not do) or show the games and watch A&M and the SEC get rich together. I've heard a 14 team SEC would get nearly double what teams are currently getting. Lord I hope that's true
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:08 pm to
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It was agreed that HS games and conference games would not be shown. And you arrogant asshats are trying to do it anyway.


?????

It was announced in January that the LHN would have high school games and no one cared for months & months.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:13 pm to
No one cared or the media/message boards didn't comment on it?

are you claiming to know what our administration was doing behind closed doors?

Message boards aren't real life, Bill from DC
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 5:14 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:34 pm to
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Aggies to SEC


Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4248 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43895 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:32 pm to
i heard a pretty good take on this today on Finebaum. saying that A&M benefits more being in the SEC than the Big 12 b/c texas recruits would likely play at A&M over Texas simply b/c of the SEC and its schedule. Also, A&M joining benefits Arkansas.
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2035 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:37 pm to
Of course the administration is trying to keep a lid on everything. They said it last year that they did not like the twitter steamroller and rumor mill. Now that they've had all year to think about it, and see what the sips are really up to, it is likely a done deal.

The question now is, do we go in 2012 or 2013. According to John Lopez (texags) on ESPN Dallas today, we have about 2 weeks to send the letter of intent to slive, or it will have to wait till next year. There is something in the contract with the big12 that requires notice.

I am guessing the deadline is the reason for all the smoke. It is hard for a school this big to make a move like this and not have someone leak the info.
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 6:52 pm
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