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re: List your top 4 playoff teams

Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:54 pm to
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Yes, Alabama honestly should not be in if they lose the SEC Championship Game




Wow..... The we need to go back to the BCS and let the computer do it.


Alabama is one of the 4 best teams.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35486 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:55 pm to
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a rematch of 2014, which is the game everyone really wants to see anyway.


Which is probably the real reason Ohio State will stay at 2 or 3. For ratings they're praying it's Ohio State - Alabama for the championship.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67027 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

1 Bama
2 Clem
3 UW
4 OSU


This is probably what will happen, but I think the Big 10 Champ should get in over them, especially if it's somehow Penn State.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:55 pm to
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Incorrect. Ohio State beat Wisconsin, Michigan and Oklahoma.


Yep - and after this weekend Michigan will drop from 3 Top 10 wins down to 1 Top 10 win.

Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:56 pm to
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Incorrect. Ohio State beat Wisconsin, Michigan and Oklahoma


Correct... I was wrong .. Michigan is the other


Both deserve to be in playoff
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:57 pm to
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No way you can say that


I can show you their conference standings. so of course I can say that. You can either go by the eye test, or you can go by hard core standings. If you go by the eye test, then Ohio State is in and Michigan is out. If you go by standings then PSU or Wisconsin is in.

Personally, I think it should be Ohio State in and Michigan out. Again...Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games, and are not playing in their conference championship game to try to redeem themselves. They are trending down.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Which is probably the real reason Ohio State will stay at 2 or 3. For ratings they're praying it's Ohio State - Alabama for the championship.


I don't think they want to risk missing this matchup, OSU is vulnerable and could easily lose to any of the three.

Also, this lets the committee save a little face by rewarding the conference championship winners (jumping an idle OSU, which they should) with something.

Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:00 pm to
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I can show you their conference standings. so of course I can say that. You can either go by the eye test, or you can go by hard core standings. If you go by the eye test, then Ohio State is in and Michigan is out. If you go by standings then PSU or Wisconsin is in. Personally, I think it should be Ohio State in and Michigan out. Again...Michigan has lost 2 of their last 3 games, and are not playing in their conference championship game to try to redeem themselves. They are trending down.


Conference standings alo showed Alabama finished 2nd in their division in 2011 but still played for the title.

Michigan was in the toughest side of the conference.


Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State

All on one side.


Penn State
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Correct... I was wrong .. Michigan is the other


Both deserve to be in playoff




Michigan got beat by a bad Iowa team. Barely beat a bad Indiana team and lost close to a very good Ohio State team in their last three games. The simply are not one of the best teams right now, which appears as if that is what you are basing your playoff teams on.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:04 pm to
I don't think there's anyway you can leave out Ohio State. I understand not winning your division, but IMO, they are one of the top 4 teams in the country. Their lone loss is on the road to a team that could potentially make the playoffs, if they win Saturday.

Using contemporary rankings, they have wins over #5, #6, #9. Two of those being on the road in hostile environments. Their loss was to currently #7 Penn State, in which they needed a blocked FG return to win.

The only argument I see for Washington over them is that they'll win their conference (possibly). Anyone that watches CFB can see the Pac 12 is horrible this year,. Washington's two best wins are against #18 Stanford and #20 Utah. Saying Wazzu was a good win is mind boggling also. Wazzu lost to Eastern Michigan, Boise State, and lost by 62 to Arizona. And just a reminder: Washington was held to under 300 yards at home vs USC and could only muster 17 total rushing yards in their lone loss.

Combined record of opponents
Ohio State: 84-59
Washington: 67-75
Posted by BagMan69
Flora Bama
Member since Nov 2016
638 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:04 pm to
I believe the winner of the B1G or the winner of the PAC 12 should get in over Mich. Ohio State gets their ranking based about 1 loss, a head to head match up against Michigan, and a strong SOS.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:09 pm to
So Ohio State gets credit for head to head over Mich.

Michigan doesn't get the same credit for head to head wins over both teams playing in the BIG championship game?
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:11 pm to
They lost to Iowa. Jesus
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35486 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:11 pm to
It's amazing to see SOS used as an argument FOR a B1G team. My, how times have changed (at least for this year).
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:25 pm to
1) Ohio State
2) Alabama
3) Michigan
4) Clemson





Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15753 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:25 pm to
1. Patriots
2. Cowboys
3. Falcons
4. Raiders
Posted by VOLLeyLLama
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2016
411 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:00 pm to
(1) Alabama
(2) Clemson
(3) Ohio State
(4) Washington
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:32 pm to
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(1) Alabama (2) Clemson (3) Ohio State (4) Washington


So you reward Washington for losing to the only top 15 team they played this year?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:34 pm to
Bama
Clemson
Washington
TBD
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:58 pm to
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Bama Clemson Washington TBD



Might as well just put all conference champions in regardless how sorry the schedule or the conference is.
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