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re: Let's disspell this myth that a top 10 UGA is always overrated

Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:12 pm to
I didn't read the actual post, but the thread title seems to indicate Georgia fans are still defensive about their rep as Underachiever U
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:12 pm to
Because it's the rant the seedy sports bar you love and sneak off too but then tell everyone you're going to the CC...

Only two forms of threads on the rant:

A= Troll

B= Response

Who runs barter town!
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33332 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:14 pm to
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BarberitosDawg


Your posts hurt to read
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:14 pm to
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How's your thread going?


full of tards, with a few decent responses scattered here and there
Posted by Alert Mi
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
680 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:21 pm to
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No maybe about itCMR has more top 10 finishes and more bowl victories in his 14 years compared to VD's 25.

Also,it was much easier to win an SECC with only 6 conference games and no SECCG

Dooley also played a very favorable SEC schedule every year...Vandy,UK and Ole Miss were almost always gimmies and while AU and UT were good teams
they still had only one SECC between them up until 1983 and were no where near the powers they are now.



Would you care to expound on why it is harder to win in modern times than it was during Dooley's, Bryant's, Broyle's, Dietzel's, etc... eras?

I've never understood this line of reasoning.

If you have a Honda 50 and I have a Honda 50 and we are racing from Birmingham to Dallas, off road, that is going to be pretty hard isn't it? Let's assume we both weigh the same amount, same height, same strength, endurance and all vitals that matter are pretty much identical.

Wouldn't it be just as difficult for one of us to win that race as it would be for two racers doing the same exact thing, under the same circumstances, with the only difference being that they are both using Honda CRF450R's instead of a Honda 50?

One set of racers has a much superior bike and it's faster, stronger, and more durable than the Honda 50 but, when equally matched, it still takes the same skill-set from the riders to assure a victory, no matter the bike underneath them.

All things being equal in each time period during which people live, which they are, I would take Dooley over Richt any day of the week. 6 SEC Championships and 1 NC matter, no matter how much your try to whittle away their importance in favor of an impotent Mark Richt who just can't quite cross the Rubicon.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Your posts hurt to read


I'm just 'fricking around with y'all frick face...


I will leave your thread alone WG have fun with the swell gang here.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:24 pm to
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I have respect for Richt and don't think UGA could do any better as far as coaches go.




Hmmmmmm. Why do I think there is an insult hidden in there?









Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:28 pm to
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If we say nr = rank 26 (which is being very generous ) that means from the data listed Georgia has fallen 28 ranks when ranked 10 or under.

So an average of 6 ranks fallen per year. So yes top ten Georgia teams are overrated.



You DO realize when you are ranked in the top 10 there is a whole lot farther to fall than to go up, right?



No. You didn't. How would an Arkansas fan know what it is like to be ranked in the top 10?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Enough preseason top tens and you should at least appear in the title game at some point. Y'all have appeared in the top ten over the last decade more often than Auburn, and they've been there twice.


We have had a few really good teams but crazy breaks are often required to make a mnccg as we have seen with nearly all sec teams who have played for a mnc, and we simply haven't gotten them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:29 pm to
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I didn't read the actual post, but the thread title seems to indicate Georgia fans are still defensive about their rep as Underachiever U



Well, considering the rep is wrong...much like you most of the time.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:31 pm to
So... every time Georgia has been ranked in the Preseason Top 5, they have failed to remain in the Top 5 after postseason play?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:31 pm to
Oh snap
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:35 pm to
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Would you care to expound on why it is harder to win in modern times than it was during Dooley's, Bryant's, Broyle's, Dietzel's, etc... eras?

I've never understood this line of reasoning.



You don't think there are more quality teams in the SEC today than in those years? I mean, the SEC DID win 7 straight National Championships by 4 different teams. I would say the quality of teams is much better today.


quote:

If you have a Honda 50 and I have a Honda 50 and we are racing from Birmingham to Dallas, off road, that is going to be pretty hard isn't it? Let's assume we both weigh the same amount, same height, same strength, endurance and all vitals that matter are pretty much identical.

Wouldn't it be just as difficult for one of us to win that race as it would be for two racers doing the same exact thing, under the same circumstances, with the only difference being that they are both using Honda CRF450R's instead of a Honda 50?

One set of racers has a much superior bike and it's faster, stronger, and more durable than the Honda 50 but, when equally matched, it still takes the same skill-set from the riders to assure a victory, no matter the bike underneath them.



I......I.....whaaaaat?


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All things being equal in each time period during which people live, which they are,


Mind pointing out to me which 7 year period Dooley coached in in which there were 4 teams strong enough to win the National Championship? Spin it any way you want, things simply are not equal. The SEC is stronger today than it was back then.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:36 pm to
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So... every time Georgia has been ranked in the Preseason Top 5, they have failed to remain in the Top 5 after postseason play?


I don't know. Could be. So? Out of curiosity....what is LSU's record on starting in the top 5 and how did they finish? I don't know. Don't really care.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Year: Pre/Post

01: NR/22
02: 8/3
03: 11/7
04: 3/7
05: 13/10

06: 15/23
07: 13/2
08: 1/10
09: 13/NR
10: 23/NR

11: 19/19
12: 6/5
13: 5/NR
14: 12/9


Wow, thanks for the post. So many of recent years with seasons that finished worst or AT BEST no better than what was projected. IMO, since these poll votes are purely subjective opinions anyways, to vote a team NO BETTER than what you voted them in pre-season, is not too impressive to me. If that said team has any degree of success, it just makes it better to justify your opinion to begin with, as a poll voter.

But if that team actually does better, then that warrants being impressed. If it does worse, then that just confirms that these pre-season polls are compiled from idiots anyways, but if it happens CONSISTENTLY (see above), then that points to the team in question and it's coaching staff's ability to develop the team.

There hasn't been any major overhaul of the coaching staffs, no major injury issues (OK perhaps in 2013 but the depth was so good that they still were productive) or scandals within the program to use as an excuse.

Mark Richt has lost control of Mark Richt....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:38 pm to
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Oh snap



I've got nothing against A&M. I really don't. I think you guys were a great pickup. If you look at enough of my posts, I rarely go after any other team unless someone from that fan base attacks UGA, first.
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4123 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:39 pm to
Bro even if you thow the 5-nr out Georgia still fell 7 ranks and 2 ranks fallen a year.

Your whole argument was that georgia top ten teams are better than people give them credit for, which is not true, even if you get rid of the worst data.

Im sorry youre insecure about this.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:44 pm to
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what is LSU's record on starting in the top 5 and how did they finish?


2005 - 5/12
2007 - 2/1
2011 - 4/2
2012 - 3/14

I don't think you'll find many LSU fans that will say we weren't overrated in 2012 given that we were breaking in Mettenberger, Landry, Beckham, and Hill as first year starters.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58909 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:44 pm to
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Bro even if you thow the 5-nr out Georgia still fell 7 ranks and 2 ranks fallen a year.

Your whole argument was that georgia top ten teams are better than people give them credit for, which is not true, even if you get rid of the worst data.

Im sorry youre insecure about this.



Not insecure. But if you begin ranked #5 you can only move up so much. If you start ranked #5 and have a bad year you can lose a TON of spots. You just aren't thinking what you are saying through.

If UGA began a season #5 and won the National Championship 3 years in a row, they would gain 12 spots. If they then started #5 and had an awful year and fell out of the rankings they would drop 20 spots and you would say they were huge underachievers, because it would be a net loss of 8 spots.

It helps if you think before you post.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:45 pm to
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Would you care to expound on why it is harder to win in modern times than it was during Dooley's, Bryant's, Broyle's, Dietzel's, etc... eras?


Don't know if you've actually thought about it, but I'll tell you.

Back in those days, you ran the ball 3 times and punted. Nowadays, you have teams throwing it 50 times a game, teams with a ground and pound, variations of the spread or read option, etc. There are far more things to account for.

In 1980, 3 people in all of CFB threw more than 3,000 yards. In 1975, only 2 people threw for more than 2,500 yards. In 1965 (dooley's 2nd year), only 3 people threw for more than 2,000 yards.

Does that make sense now?
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