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re: Legit national title contenders. 4 or 5 legit from the sec.

Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:09 pm to
I think you entered the conversation a little late. I was asked to provide reasoning for my thinking on USCe's season. I've also already predicted USCe to go 10-2 this year in my prediction thread. Not to mention, I fostered a rather decent discussion about USCe earlier in the offseason that was void of trolling.

I could make a laundry list of similar questions for UGA, LSU, AU, Bama, etc.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:16 pm to
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I could make a laundry list of similar questions for UGA, LSU, AU, Bama, etc.


You could, but you've chosen not to do so?

Hmmmmmmmmm ......
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:20 pm to
Like I said, I was asked to provide reasons for the "maybe" language placed by USCe. I did so. It obviously wasn't met favorably.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:20 pm to
i don't really consider a legitimate title contender this year. we should contend for the SEC-w, but probably not the national championship
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:25 pm to
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Like I said, I was asked to provide reasons for the "maybe" language placed by scjr. I did so. It obviously wasn't met favorably.


Still plugging away, aye?

Don't worry. Your keen insights were met favorably by people who don't have shite between their ears.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:34 pm to
I don't have anything against the Cocks -- they're in same general range as we are, historically-speaking -- so my question isn't why people think they're not a legitimate title contender, but why USCe fans think they are. That's a much more interesting line of discussion, really. I'm personally not seeing it, but, then, I haven't heard the arguments for it. I'm not asking why fans think they'll be good -- most of us agree they'll be good -- but why they could be NC contenders.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:37 pm to
Oh look, my stalker is back. Not surprised you think me believing basically the same thing everybody else believes makes me stupid.

Nobody outside their own fan base believes LSU is going to win or even contend for the national championship this year. When the media at SEC media day makes their predictions next week, LSU will likely be somewhere in the middle of the conference. Having to depend so heavily on true freshman wide receivers is a perfect example of why they wont win or even contend for a national championship
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:39 pm to
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Like I said, I was asked to provide reasons for the "maybe" language placed by USCe. I did so. It obviously wasn't met favorably.


"Maybe," should be placed beside all the contenders' names, amirite?

Did Auburn even garner a "maybe" this time last year?

You were met with some push back by some because you seem to focus on SCAR. Do you deny that you have, at least thus far?

So let's read the "maybes" about the other contenders listed.

Here's the bottom line.

There are "maybes" for everyone. We all have our question marks. Some more or less than others.

The SEC Champion has a shot.

As Spurrier has always said, winning the SEC Championship is the #1 priority.

Make it to Atlanta and anything might happen.

Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:40 pm to
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so my question isn't why people think they're not a legitimate title contender, but why USCe fans think they are. That's a much more interesting line of discussion, really. I'm personally not seeing it, but, then, I haven't heard the arguments for it. I'm not asking why fans think they'll be good -- most of us agree they'll be good -- but why they could be NC contenders.
Uh you haven't heard arguments for it because no reasonable Carolina fan thinks we will win the national championship. I don't think we'll win it so I can't give you any reasons why we will.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:44 pm to
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Oh look, my stalker is back. Not surprised you think me believing basically the same thing everybody else believes makes me stupid.

Nobody outside their own fan base believes LSU is going to win or even contend for the national championship this year. When the media at SEC media day makes their predictions next week, LSU will likely be somewhere in the middle of the conference. Having to depend so heavily on true freshman wide receivers is a perfect example of why they wont win or even contend for a national championship


I believe it's possible they can contend for it, and I'm definitely not an LSU fan, as some annoyed LSU fans can attest. So you're clearly mistaken. And, given that I also knew the names of two of their receivers, you're clearly stupid, too, for resorting to unverified absolute statements yet again. The difference between you and me is that I actually understand football and have a general understanding of how their offensive scheme works. It's not all about the skill positions, and it's not about your apparent misapprehension concerning their general reliance on wide-outs.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:46 pm to
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Uh you haven't heard arguments for it because no reasonable Carolina fan thinks we will win the national championship. I don't think we'll win it so I can't give you any reasons why we will.


Fair enough. So why are y'all getting into fights with certain other fanbases for saying you won't, or at least that you're only a "possibly," then? Just out of principle?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:46 pm to
LSU is winning it all this year. frick all y'all
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95961 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:48 pm to
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Fair enough. So why are y'all getting into fights with certain other fanbases for saying you won't, or at least that you're only a "possibly," then? Just out of principle?


In my case, I never said he was wrong. Just that his reasoning was dumb.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:51 pm to
How does what you believe make me stupid? I couldn't give two shits what you believe. I said most people outside their own fan base couldn't name even 1 of their defensive tackles or wide receivers. When did you become a majority of people all by yourself? The same things applies to them winning the national championship
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:51 pm to
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So why are y'all getting into fights with certain other fanbases for saying you won't, or at least that you're only a "possibly," then?
My thing with this whole "maybe" idea is that while USC certainly deserves a maybe, so does Georgia and LSU.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
19253 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:52 pm to
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Fair enough. So why are y'all getting into fights with certain other fanbases for saying you won't, or at least that you're only a "possibly," then? Just out of principle?


You have to realize the fanbase you're dealing with...


Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 6:52 pm to
I completely agree. I wasn't trying to take a shot at USCe, just trying to briefly explain why it was possible that OP put "maybe" beside USCe. Then there was a shite storm, so I provided something more than brief. Then there was a bigger shite storm and OP reneged.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 7:17 pm to
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In my case, I never said he was wrong. Just that his reasoning was dumb.


Fair enough again. It wasn't professional level analysis, though I'm not entirely sure he's wrong.

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My thing with this whole "maybe" idea is that while USC certainly deserves a maybe, so does Georgia and LSU.


Also fair enough. I actually agree that the only two SEC programs I'd call great bets are the two in Alabama. But great bets have faltered before, and slightly longer shots have won it all.
Posted by rubberbiscuit
In my house
Member since Apr 2014
303 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 7:30 pm to
Lsu ftw
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/12/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Lsu ftw


Yeah, well, you can discuss it with auburnphan. He has strong ideas about that, and slightly less strong ideas about the spelling of "fan." You choose which topic interests you the most.
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