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Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:24 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Ole Miss has a GOOD defense...not a great one as they think. They are vulnerable when they play big physical running teams. They are much better against a spread type team, imo. They will have a tough year if they don't develop a stout passing game, since their run game is all but invisible.
We struggled against one big, physical running team last year and that score wasn't indicative of the defense's performance. I agree that our QB play will have a lot to say with how this year goes, but the offensive line staying healthy will play an even bigger role.
I don't think we'll be lucky to win eight or nine games. If Kelly/Buchanan is garbage and the line is injured, we'll win 6-7 games. If both go well, I can't see us winning less than 10. The defense will be outstanding, but it will be a feast or famine year based on the QB/OL situation.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:37 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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We struggled against one big, physical running team last year
LSU ran all over you, that's for sure. I'm fairly certainly Arkansas did as well....and if I remember correctly, Bama was doing the same until they went brain dead in the second half. jmo. I could be wrong about Arkansas and Bama.....but I'm positive on LSU...I was there.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:42 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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If both go well, I can't see us winning less than 10
Really? I wonder why Vegas isn't seeing it the same way. You are currently 4th pick in the SEC W....and that's putting you ahead of Arkansas...which we know you will likely struggle against with your style of defense. jmo. I don't think any team in the West can make this statement, but certainly not a team that may have no identity on offense.
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The defense will be outstanding
I think you will be third or 4th overall in defense in the West. You are quick...but light. I could be wrong, but I think a great year for Ole Miss this coming year will be another 4 loss season.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:43 pm to Tigerinthehollow
We didn't lose that game because we gave up 10 points. We lost it because the line of scrimmage badly on offense.
Alabama didn't run all over us by any means as they too scored 10 points on offense. Arkansas, they weren't great. The defense is bigger and faster than last year. CJ Johnson is at MLB now and we added two really good JuCo pieces to the secondary.
Alabama didn't run all over us by any means as they too scored 10 points on offense. Arkansas, they weren't great. The defense is bigger and faster than last year. CJ Johnson is at MLB now and we added two really good JuCo pieces to the secondary.
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:49 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
I see you are basing this off of points instead of yards. You were extremely fortunate that LSU turned the ball over several times, including two times in the red zone with first down. Hell, Fournette basically had an unforced turnover after picking up a first down at the 5 yard line. We also miss a 23 yard field goal. I'm not trying to be a dick, but LSU should have honestly won that game by 15-20 points. I think they had what, 250-300 yards on the ground? Losing the turnover battle 4-1 had more to do with that being a close game than your defense.
Bama, I'm not sure about...but again you are using points. I seem to remember they were gaining big chunks of yards in the first half before for some reason changing their offense in the second half...maybe I'm wrong.
Arky, well they completely dominated you....
Bama, I'm not sure about...but again you are using points. I seem to remember they were gaining big chunks of yards in the first half before for some reason changing their offense in the second half...maybe I'm wrong.
Arky, well they completely dominated you....
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:50 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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and teams have started to figure out how to contain prescot.
Pardon?
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:52 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Really? I wonder why Vegas isn't seeing it the same way. You are currently 4th pick in the SEC W....and that's putting you ahead of Arkansas...which we know you will likely struggle against with your style of defense. jmo. I don't think any team in the West can make this statement, but certainly not a team that may have no identity on offense.
It's really convenient to ignore the qualifier to that number 10 I picked out. I don't see a scenario where we win 8 or 9 games, I think it will be 6-7, or it will be 10+ and I gave my reasons why.
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I think you will be third or 4th overall in defense in the West. You are quick...but light.
Our starters on the defensive line are all stout. Our backups are as well, minus Haynes and Gross, but both have proven to be valuable. Denzel Nkemdiche is small, but CJ Johnson at MLB will be a big upgrade over DT physically.
Our secondary can absolutely lay the wood, and they're all big guys for the positions. Connor, Shepard, Bridges, Webster and Elston can all hit.
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I could be wrong, but I think a great year for Ole Miss this coming year will be another 4 loss season.
You are wrong with that one. We have at least four first rounders for next year's draft, Connor may fall to the second somewhere. We have increased our win total every year under Freeze and built to this one. If we go 9-4, we will fire at least Matt Luke because it is going to be a lot of his fault.
All of this is conjecture at this point as the season is three-plus months away. You don't know how we'll play, and I don't either. I have the advantage in knowing a lot more about Ole Miss's team than you do, but you have the advantage on not seeing the team with homer eyes like I do. I can only offer my insight into what we have and what is expected.
It can't be overstated enough: QB play and the offensive line staying healthy will dramatically decide the team's fate this year.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:54 pm to Tds & Beer
He wasn't the same the second half of the season. Not slamming the kid, but he just wasn't. Also, if he was good enough he would have gone pro. If LSU had him last year, they probably would have gone to the playoff...some really not dogging him, just saying the more film teams got on him, the more they were able to force him to do things he didn't want to do.
But, flame away at me for not anointing him the greatest there ever was.
But, flame away at me for not anointing him the greatest there ever was.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:55 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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You were extremely fortunate that LSU turned the ball over several times, including two times in the red zone with first down.
Good defenses cause turnovers. LF didn't pull a Waterboy and hand us the ball, we took it.
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I see you are basing this off of points instead of yards.
That's the way games are decided. Good teams keep the other team off the board. You don't judge a pitcher by his WHIP, you judge him by his ERA.
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Arky, well they completely dominated you....
Y'all and us, both. I think both LSU and Ole Miss beat the Hogs at home this year, though.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:02 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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We have at least four first rounders for next year's draft,
Again, not trying to be a dick...but do you not think that LSU/Bama/Auburn have the same and more of it? Overall, all three of those teams are more talented that Ole Miss, and it's not debatable. You had a good class for one year and got a few big names.....a couple are outstanding, the OT and WR....the big name on D is not outstanding, but he still gets the recognition. You had the type of class for one year that those three basically get every year....and even A&M has more talent. I'll agree you have more than Arkansas and State, but Arky is a bad matchup for you. This can't be overstated: The best season you have had in 40 years is a three loss season. You are going into the year with a completely unknown offense. Your defense is good, but again, vulnerable to strong running teams. You are crazy if you think you are going to just walk into the SEC and suddenly win 10 or more games without an offense and a small but quick defense.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:03 pm to spacewrangler
Yes we will win one of three
No idea about State
No idea about State
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:04 pm to Tigerinthehollow
LSU is going to have 4 first rounders this year? Hahaha
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:09 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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Good defenses cause turnovers. LF didn't pull a Waterboy and hand us the ball, we took it.
Ok guy....not going to argue with you on this. LSU did finish ahead of you in total defense....you were fortunate that the game was that close, given the dominance of LSU that night...call it what you want. LF uncharacteristically fumbled...it happens...
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That's the way games are decided. Good teams keep the other team off the board. You don't judge a pitcher by his WHIP, you judge him by his ERA.
you really don't get it do you. They ran all over you....I'm sure they made the kicker miss the 23 yard field goal as well. When you shut another team down to three and outs, and give up 10 points...it's a lot different than only being able to stop them due to multiple turnovers and miscues in kicking....you are actually talking like you guys are some top program, at least that's the way you come off.....you aren't. You lost 4 games last year. That's a down year for LSU....for Ole Miss, it has been called an elite season. See the difference?
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Y'all and us, both
Was not a surprise to me at all for LSU. They just came off an emotional heartbreaking overtime loss to Alabama that eliminated them from West contention....Arkansas was hungry for their first SEC win in a while......writing was on the wall.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:13 pm to DMagic
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LSU is going to have 4 first rounders this year? Hahaha
Ole Miss will not have 4 first rounders this year. I can guarantee you this much, with the talent on the field, LSU will have more future first rounders playing than Ole Miss will have......having just been out in Vegas, that's pretty clear from the current odds to win the NC. It's very likely LSU will have 2-3 first rounders this coming year alone though....the difference, as I said, is that they have more than those players.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:15 pm to DMagic
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Yes we will win one of three
As I've told you before.....I remember last year when you said LSU couldn't move the ball on Ole Miss and that it was going to be a beatdown of something like 30-3....or some bs. I remember you saying that LSU would have serious trouble making first downs against that all-time SEC D......
So.......your opinion is not that valued.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:17 pm to Tigerinthehollow
We've got three locks and a couple fringe guys depending on production or needs of teams late. Congrats on the Vegas trip I'm sure they enjoyed taking your illegitimate children's food money. Good news is we have other players too otherwise our season would be very short.
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:20 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Actually I said that it would be close like the last two years and lo and behold that happened. You scored 10 points and won by three. It'll be close again this year but LSU fans will pretend like they don't care or will say it'll be a blowout.
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