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re: L5U, Do you regret missing out on tim williams?

Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:48 am to
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:48 am to
Do you regret being a fan of a school you could not get into?
Posted by iluvredboxx
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:11 am to
All jokes aside, I regret every single player that contributes to Alabama's success that LSU could have pulled.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:18 am to
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He has been a bust up until this year


Sitting behind draft picks as a freshman and sophomore doesn't mean you're a bust, it means you play for a good football team.

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You are smoking dope if you think Williams is going to be a first round draft pick

I don't think he'd be a first round pick if he came out this year, but he wouldn't make it out of the second. 260 pound pass rushers with a first step like his don't make it out of the second. He would be the best pass rusher lsu has and an every down starter there, I don't think that debatable. If he comes back, he probably ends up a top 10 pick, but I'd bet whatever you want to wager he'll be a first rounder if he plays at Bama next season
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:23 am to
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Caitlyn Jenner > Tim Williams


I LOLed
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:49 am to
We passed because of character issues.

Guy is talented though.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:56 am to
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He seems like a role player to me


He is a situational player but a very very good one.

When he got that sack against Treon i was sure they were gonna throw a flag for offsides...he is just that quick
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:59 am to
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He would be the best pass rusher lsu has and an every down starter there, I don't think that debatable. If he comes back, he probably ends up a top 10 pick, but I'd bet whatever you want to wager he'll be a first rounder if he plays at Bama next season



Yes he would have been because we were so thin there. Sorry he will have to be an every down player in order to be considered as a first or second round draft pick. He is 230ish no were near 260 and he won't be playing DE in the NFL. He will be OLBer at the next level.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:03 am to
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He is 230ish no were near 260


He was 225 when he got to Alabama 3 years ago. He said himself after the SECCG that we weighs 260 now. Maybe he's lying, but I think he'd have a better idea than you would, and he's certainly packed on more than 5 pounds in 3 years
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:09 am to
Solid player that we didnt make a huge push for. We didnt push for Lacy due to grades and that was more a regret for me. Williams is good but we didnt push hard for him for whatever reason when (with him being at U high) the coaches had every reason to know every single thing about the kid as just about every coach who has a high school age son goes there. Maybe hes a kid who just needed to get away that happens in a good way for a large number of kids not just including those who play sports. I hate that he went to Bama but thats the way it is. Like I said though of the ones we didnt recruit Id pick Lacy. Out of all of the ones that left CRob is obviously the biggest. Devall wouldnt have fit our system. Hootie we replaced with a better player the WRs havent done anything too special. The two big ones are Crob and Lacy.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:15 am to
Well then either he is lien or Bama needs to do a better job of updating their roster. They have him listed at 6'4 230. So either he has only gained 5 pounds since arriving on campus or he has gained 30 pounds since the start of the season
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70162 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:19 am to
Missing out would imply that we were out recruited for him. Considering that I know someone that was in the room when his attempted commitment to LSU was turned down, that is not the case.

Now did we miss on an evaluation of him as a player and likely as a person? Yes. But Chavis thought he wouldn't be a good linebacker.

Other people Chavis thought wouldn't be good linebackers include Kenny Young, Debo Jones, Denzel Devall, and Kendall Beckwith.

Have I mentioned frick Chavis?
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37609 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:21 am to
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The two big ones are Crob and Lacy.


No Landon Collins?

Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21688 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:24 am to
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Well then either he is lien or Bama needs to do a better job of updating their roster. They have him listed at 6'4 230. So either he has only gained 5 pounds since arriving on campus or he has gained 30 pounds since the start of the season


He must be "lien" because college football rosters are always very accurate with measurables, forty times, etc.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:27 am to
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He must be "lien" because college football rosters are always very accurate with measurables, forty times, etc.



Not saying that but 30 pounds off?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21688 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:35 am to
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Not saying that but 30 pounds off?


Do you really think they update these heights and weights?
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:52 am to
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He would be the best pass rusher lsu has and an every down starter there, I don't think that debatable.


First part isn't debatable, but to say he would be an every down starter here is just wrong. I think he was going to be a LB here anyway. He fits great into Alabama's scheme, but he wouldn't be half as productive here. He can't stop the run so he wouldn't sniff the field until 3rd downs. That being said, it would be interesting to see what he would be like as a LB at LSU. He would be bigger than Debo, and probably just as fast. Has the physical tools to be a great LB here, but its hard to say how good he would be without watching him play in that role. Its a very instinctive position.


But to the OP, its not like Alabama stole him from us. We passed on him. We missed on him in terms of talent evaluation. Just have to clarify because of how horribly ignorant our fans can be when they see a Louisiana guy doing well from another state and assume Les can't recruit. Especially with the gross exaggerations of Bama coming into LA and getting whoever they want. The vast majority of LA players on Bama's rosters over the last decade have either been busts or we did not go after them much.
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 10:57 am
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