re: Kleinpeter: Palpable sense of decline at LSU

I 100% agree with you but Tennessee, Arkansas and UF are all in different spots than LSU in term of recruiting and coaching.

Tennessee relies on out of state kids, even though Nashville is starting to really produce some talent. But it hasn't always been that way. I know this first hand. The coaching situation at UT has really screwed them as well. The 1 year of Kiffin was a dagger.

Arkansas HS football is not on par with south LA. So they also rely on developing 2 and 3 star guys as well as out of state recruiting. Arkansas also took some major steps back due to losing Petrino.

UF is the outlier here, but they hired the wrong HC and also compete with a gazillion schools for kids. FSU and The U are both rich and tradition, and Miami is much closer to where that Florida HS talent is in south FL.

LSU still has a very well known HC, and benefits from being the only major in-state school. It's not a bad gig when you're just fighting to keep guys from going to Bama, aTm or Ole Miss. It's just a flat out different situation than any school you listed. When LSU loses Miles is when all of this is comparable to the schools you mentioned. IMO

They already declined and I doubt they get back to the top under Coach Miles.

If you are talking about falling down to a 3 to 6 win program that isn't going to happen with the way OOC are done these days since they will have 3 easy wins every year pretty much. So 6-6 is about as it could get. THey should easily remain a 6 to 9 win program most years. They could have a random losing season here and there over the next 30 years after Coach Miles retires, but it will not happen often.

the openness of Miles' eyes isn't going to make Jennings or Harris any better. both need to grow up drastically in the offseason

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I just realized how beautiful this quote is

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isn't it though? i had to read it about 3 times when he posted it to make sure i wasn't seeing shite.

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They already declined and I doubt they get back to the top under Coach Miles.

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He'll win the SEC again before he retires

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If Chavis really left due to the offense, then I hink it's a blessing in disguise. I didn't want him gone obviously, but if that's what it takes to open Miles' fricking eyes then I'm completely fine with it.

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I agree with this.

It may end up being the best thing that ever happened for our offense.

Or it could be the moment when Miles and Cameron doubled down and retrenched.

I don't know. I could see either playing out.

Cameron says they are trying all kinds of new stuff (and they did) like jet sweeps, etc. I don't think it's so much play selection or willingness to try new things that's the issue but rather the clear difficulty in developing a QB who can make the progressions and pass with confidence.

The next two years will be critical. Either Cam develops a QB. Maybe we get lucky again like with Mett and get a transfer who can man the ship for a while.

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i had to read it about 3 times

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I pretty much did the same

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You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you.

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I had to go back and look to see what our defensive coordinator was *before* Tepper (I honestly couldn't remember).

It was Carl Reese. He was at LSU from '95 to '97 (the only three winning seasons in the 90s for LSU).

He left LSU for the same position at...

(wait for it)

the University of Texas

where he coached for Mack Brown until 2003 when he retired/resigned.

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Living in Austin for almost six years now,I recalled Reese being quoted as saying upon his hiring that the reason he left LSU for texas was that he felt he had a better shot at a national title.

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Ouch.

LINK

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You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you.

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Additionally, LSU had never had more than 2 losing seasons in a row until 1989-1994. That is the worst period of record in LSU's football history, although the one season that LSU went winless in the SEC was in 1983 (although they did beat South Carolina) - my freshman year.

LSU almost went winless in conference in 1999, but we got bailed out at the last minute by Hal Hunter and Rohan Davey.

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I really think LSU will come roaring back... if only they can fix that qb issue.

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Wholly frick...they ran the ball as good as any team in the country with the other team knowing without a doubt we would never throw the ball. This team would be great if we just had anyone in the backfield that get the ball over the line of scrimmage and make the DC have to call pass protection just once during the game. We just suck so bad at one spot it makes even our coaches want to quit...damn!



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