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re: Kiffin gives an unbiased opinion about the dirty play
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:21 am to Lg
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:21 am to Lg
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So we have a NEW definition of targeting I see.
No, we have the same definition.
Let me help you with that
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ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below)
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ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul. ...
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indications of targeting (emphasis NCAA's) include but are not limited to:
- Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
- A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
- Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
- Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
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Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass
A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return
A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
A player on the ground
A player obviously out of the play
A player who receives a blind-side block
A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped
A quarterback any time after a change of possession a ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet first"
I've bolded the important parts for the play in question. Literally the only thing that changes is that Turner doesn't play the rest of the game and Alabama still wins with Daniels out. Not sure why it's so hard to admit it should have been a targeting call under the rules in place
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 11:25 am
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:23 am to Gings5
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it was a dirty hit that eliminated the best player on the field
It was a TEXTBOOK tackle (why it wasn't called targeting) and shouldn't have even been called ROUGHING because if you watch the video (WITHOUT BIAS OF COURSE) you can actually see DT turn his body a little to the left to keep from absolutely pile driving Daniels into the turf. If his complete body had landed on Daniels, his ribs would have collapsed.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:25 am to Lg
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It was a TEXTBOOK tackle
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:26 am to Lg
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It was a TEXTBOOK tackle
we know this is how Bama teaches their players to tackle, but that does not make this a textbook tackle.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:29 am to lsufball19
So which one did he do?
He didn't LEAD with the crown of his helmet. Facemask in chest. He didn't have FORCIBLE contact to the head or neck area. Facemask in chest. Daniels chin hit the top of Turners helmet do to the fact of his head coming forward at contact. His concussion probably occurred when the back of his helmet hit the turf. He didn't launch. Both feet on the ground at contact.
So help me out.
He didn't LEAD with the crown of his helmet. Facemask in chest. He didn't have FORCIBLE contact to the head or neck area. Facemask in chest. Daniels chin hit the top of Turners helmet do to the fact of his head coming forward at contact. His concussion probably occurred when the back of his helmet hit the turf. He didn't launch. Both feet on the ground at contact.
So help me out.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:30 am to tigerskin
Who…. Gives… a…. Frick
We were still penalized 15 yards
Not like LSU would have magically won the game had DT been ejected.
We were still penalized 15 yards
Not like LSU would have magically won the game had DT been ejected.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:30 am to tigerskin
It wasn't a dirty play, dumb arse. By the book it was an illegal hit that should have been called a penalty, but calling it "dirty" just tells me you're butthurt.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:32 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
As an unbiased fan. I thought the hit looked dirty as frick. Launched and hit the face mask with the crown of the helmet then speared him into the ground. Knocked his arse out.
It does seem they don’t give a frick about targeting this season where in past seasons that would have 100% been targeting and ejection.
It does seem they don’t give a frick about targeting this season where in past seasons that would have 100% been targeting and ejection.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:32 am to TRUERockyTop
Does Birmingham count as their fan base too?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:33 am to SammyTiger
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we know this is how Bama teaches their players to tackle, but that does not make this a textbook tackle.
Start a flag football team then. If you see what you hit it can't be the crown of the helmet. No wonder y'all are a bunch of losers. It's like y'all just started fielding a football team.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:40 am to tigerskin
If this kind of play is allowed across the board, then we would not have any QBs left.
Horrible precedence!
Horrible precedence!
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:41 am to MykTide
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42-28
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:42 am to gothamdawg
How did QBs survive when a play such as this would not have even been flagged for roughing? Because that was not a penalty 15 years ago.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:43 am to CapstoneGrad06
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How did QBs survive when a play such as this would not have even been flagged for roughing? Because that was not a penalty 15 years ago.
Maybe the players weren't as thuggish then?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:43 am to Freight Joker
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Who…. Gives… a…. Frick
We were still penalized 15 yards
Not like LSU would have magically won the game had DT been ejected.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:44 am to tigerskin
Truly amazing how some of the retarded inbreds still won’t even acknowledge that at minimum it was a dirty hit 
Reminds me of the Brandon miller saga
Reminds me of the Brandon miller saga
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:45 am to Lg
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So which one did he do?
I bolded the relevant parts of what he did. I assumed that would be dummy proof enough for you. Guess not
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Facemask in chest.
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He didn't LEAD with the crown of his helmet.
I honestly don't think you know there's a difference in the crown of the helmet and the facemask. The crown of his helmet was in Daniel's jaw
That is the "head and neck area" believe it or not "leading" is only one indicator. There are multiple different indicators. Only one is needed for a targeting foul.
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Daniels chin hit the top of Turners helmet .
exactly
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:46 am to Lg
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It was a TEXTBOOK tackle
honestly hope a player "textbook tackles" turner and ends his career.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:47 am to Maravich
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Truly amazing how some of the retarded inbreds still won’t even acknowledge that at minimum it was a dirty hit
it's truly remarkable.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:48 am to monsterballads
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honestly hope a player "textbook tackles" turner and ends his career.
Wishing injury on a college athlete is so cool, and not at all indicative of the person saying it being a total piece of shite.
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