re: Kelly set the precedent when he got away w murder

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personally. It's kind of weird that no one realizes that the head football coach isn't responsible for the operations of a student video crew, that's the responsibility of the athletic department.

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I would imagine the coach can tell anyone “ let’s take a day off “ in dangerous conditions whether you want practice filmed or not
I guarantee Saban controlled every aspect of the program

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I would imagine the coach can tell anyone “ let’s take a day off “ in dangerous conditions whether you want practice filmed or not 
I guarantee Saban controlled every aspect of the program

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No doubt.

Who can forget Saban (allegedly) stepping over a player who was having convulsions at Miami?

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Did the alleged victim die?

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No, sounds like the people responsible for the player's health actually did their job.

You can't say the same for the kid at Notre Dame.

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I agree, Kelly should have never let that kid go up on the lift

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Football coach doesn't manage the ooperations of the student video crew.

Weird how everyone blames Kelly but not the kid's immediate supervisor, the athletic director, or the president of the university.

But then again, it's just a means to troll. Hopefully the kid's parents never see these types of threads.

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Not sure if you are being serious or not but the football coach , at any level , works very closely with the video crew on how they want things done

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A head coach of a major CFB program is not working "closely" with the student video team on anything, hell, coordinators and position coaches aren't even doing that.

That's what interns, GA's and analysts are for.

How far away do you think video guys are? They are right there with the team . No way to sugar coat this one . Kelly should have never let that happen… plain and simple . I guarantee the coaches know their video guys. You ever seen a Saban staff meeting? There is huge table full of coaches and the analysts , GAs , video guys etc are sitting behind them… if a coach doesn’t know his whole “crew”, then he is not much of a coach

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How far away do you think video guys are? They are right there with the team . No way to sugar coat this one . Kelly should have never let that happen… plain and simple .

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It's interesting that you lay it all at Kelly's feet yet no mention of the kid's immediate supervisor, the athletic director, or even the president of the university.

There was a four month investigation into this incident, we know what happened. I can only assume you're either ignorant or trolling.

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I guarantee the coaches know their video guys. You ever seen a Saban staff meeting? There is huge table full of coaches and the analysts , GAs , video guys etc are sitting behind them… if a coach doesn’t know his whole “crew”, then he is not much of a coach 

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Now you're moving goalposts, I never said he didn't "know" the student video staff, I said he wasn't directly involved in their day to day operations.

A head football coach is not monitoring and managing the student video crew, that isn't his job. The student video crew is a function of the athletic department and is usually directly managed by a video coordinator who reports to the administrative side of the athletic department.

The video coordinator was the one who ultimately was responsible for the video crew, he made the decision to use the lifts that day, he even issued directions on how high to raise them and kept one member of the crew off of the lifts for her safety.

You can hold Brian Kelly responsible in that he's the "leader" of the football program but that would also extend to the athletic director and president of the university, especially when the actual safety violations all fell under the athletic department's purview.

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I think you are the one moving goalposts . Do you think the AD and President of the University are at every practice I am sure the LSU AD let’s Kelly run/oversee football practice as he sees fit.. as it should be

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And I am sure Kelly let the video coordinator run his video crew, as he saw fit...as it should be.

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Well it was obviously a terrible mistake by Kelly

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According to a random Alabama fan on a message board, with no knowledge of the leadership structure or the events that transpired that day.

In the real world, Kelly was never actually implicated in any type of negligence in the investigations that followed the incident.

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And you do?

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No, I'm just going off of the information provided through the findings of the investigations.

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It was a terrible accident/tragedy 

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No doubt, it's sad that some use these tragedies as a means to troll.

The same can be said of your basketball situation, even the DJ Durkin incident.

I'm sure I've been guilty as well.