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re: Just watching the game, the Honey Badger was owned

Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36525 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:24 pm to
I mean, it wasn't that bad, he got burned a few times but he had a few solo tackles too.



But how much can you ask from the defense with the offense performing the way they did?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36525 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:28 pm to
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Besides no one remembers conference champions, they remember national champions.


Nah, the SEC championship is pretty much legendary these days.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16410 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:29 pm to
HB7 is having a pretty good career. Only a soph. Has Bama ever had a soph DB that played this well? Just asking.
Posted by BulioBones
Southcentral Louisiana State
Member since Feb 2011
363 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:31 am to
I lost count of how many tackles he barely missed and norwood just stepped up and used his size in passing

Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:37 am to
Honey badger don't give a shite what you think. He has a house bigger than your double wide.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:57 am to
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I'll be shocked if the Honey Badger isn't converted into a safety in the NFL.


I'll be shocked if the Honey Badger starts a game in the NFL at anything besides special teams.
Posted by LSUkoozie
30'24'43'N91'11'8'W
Member since Oct 2011
925 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:00 am to
lsu was owned



fify
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:53 am to
Never seen one player hated so much for being great. He gave up some first down catches. By some of these comments you would think he had a Ike Taylor type of game. McCarron made some good throws, so give him credit for coming to play.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52682 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:56 am to
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Never seen one player hated so much for being great.


you have an extremely short memory.

Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 2:00 am to
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I'll be shocked if the Honey Badger starts a game in the NFL at anything besides special teams.

wow this is a bit of a stretch on your part.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 2:31 am to
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wow this is a bit of a stretch on your part.




No TM7 is a special teams/nickel back in the NFL.
Posted by 4nmylifetime
668 Neighbor to the Beast
Member since Jun 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:37 am to
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I disagree. I think he's at least an adequate cover corner. He was in position to make plays. He's just too short to contend for a well thrown ball to a tall receiver. Norwood and Hanks are both probably 5-7 inches taller than Mathieu, and McCarron was putting the ball where only they could go up and get it.






He was right on Norwood on a lot of those passes, but had no chance to make a play do to size differences and ball placement. He never got seriously burnt on any play. He was just at a size disadvantage and AJ was having the game of his life.


adequate doesnt cut it in the NFL. They are not going to draft an adequate nickle/dime back who can return punts. Your talking about a corner whose biggest accomplishment is causing fumbles. Not really the stat the NFL is concerned with out of their cover men. In the league every reciever is 6 foot +. If you cant cover a teams #3 reciever in college how are you going to cover an NFL #3 reciever. The Honey Weasel bubble has burst. He was right on Norwood and Hank for several passes but there was one major problem. He never knew the ball was in the air. He never turned his head head. He played the reciever instead of the ball. NFL QB's do not struggle with back shoulder passes on mid range out routes which will eat a cover man who cant turn his head up all day long.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:51 am to
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adequate doesnt cut it in the NFL. They are not going to draft an adequate nickle/dime back who can return punts. Your talking about a corner whose biggest accomplishment is causing fumbles. Not really the stat the NFL is concerned with out of their cover men. In the league every reciever is 6 foot +. If you cant cover a teams #3 reciever in college how are you going to cover an NFL #3 reciever. The Honey Weasel bubble has burst. He was right on Norwood and Hank for several passes but there was one major problem. He never knew the ball was in the air. He never turned his head head. He played the reciever instead of the ball. NFL QB's do not struggle with back shoulder passes on mid range out routes which will eat a cover man who cant turn his head up all day long.


I love that all the Gumps think TM7 won't cut it in the NFL based on the NCG where he got beat a few times...... as a sophomore.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:05 am to
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I love that all the Gumps think TM7 won't cut it in the NFL based on the NCG where he got beat a few times...... as a sophomore


Originally it wasn't a gump that said that.

Secondly, I think many on here have made it known why they don't think he can play at the next level and it has nothing to do with the NC game.

FWIW, I think he's a great player and he'll play in the NFL. He just got flat out embarrased on the biggest stage in college football. Bad enough that he and his fanbase that worshipped him deserve a little ribbing.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:39 am to
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He just got flat out embarrased on the biggest stage in college football


Huh? He had some passes caught on him by bigger receivers and was held in check by high punts. That's hardly getting embarrassed. Now if you want to start a thread about our embarrassing arse offense I'd gladly join in on that shite-fest.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:59 am to
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Huh? He had some passes caught on him by bigger receivers and was held in check by high punts. That's hardly getting embarrassed.


Did you read the original post? I pointed out several things that happened.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15590 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:16 am to
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deaux68
Just watching the game, the Honey Badger was owned

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The kid had a bad game but y'all are just silly with this shite now.

He/Y'all deserve every bit that you get. It hasn't been 48 hours since a walk-on took what he wanted from Mathieu.



Classy. What a gracious winner you are.
I think the game plan was to bottle up Mathieu, which you did. But that doesn't mean that the plays he made all during the season NEVER frickING HAPPENED !!!!!!
AH.
Posted by Interweb Cowboy
NW Bama
Member since Dec 2010
3137 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:23 am to
HB7 is a play maker no ifs, ands or buts about it. Is he the best CB? No is he the worst CB? No. What I've seen is that he excells when LSU can gamble with him. In the two games with Bama this year they could not afford to gamble with him as much for fear of giving up a big play.

He probably will be a situational player in the pros, but while he is in college he needs to be on the field.
Posted by ntkelley87
Member since Sep 2010
28 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:23 am to
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Bama was going to attack him because he was weak in coverage


I have been saying it all year! he is weak in coverage! He makes plays when he blitzes off the edge and in special teams. Hes a DAMN GOOD PLAYMAKER just highly overrated as a Defensive back! Alabama knew that.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20362 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:31 am to
owned? that's cheap. We held your offense in check, but your QB was making unbelievable passes. NO ONE could have defensed most of those passes.

Matheiu's aura/legend is that he's always making the big play- strip, PR, pick etc. Look at his career stats after 2 years. He's not a dominating physical presence.

He did make a couple of solid tackles on TR and Lacy one on one at the line, and he was in good position in tight coverage on a lot of completions. That's what he was asked to do, so he wasn't "owned". He just didn't get a strip-n-score.

It's like saying Trent was owned because he wasn't ripping off yards all night long.
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