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re: Just looking objectively...

Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:27 am to
Posted by DawgPhoneGuy
Brandon MS
Member since Sep 2014
413 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:27 am to
That is not true on the rivalry thing. I can't stand Ole Miss. They are everything that is wrong with this world even though my dad is a die hard old piss homer! So there you go!
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:52 am to
QB - State
RB - State
WR - Auburn
TE - Auburn
OL - State
DL - State
LB - State
DB - Auburn
Special Teams - Auburn
Coaching - Push
Big Game Experience - Auburn
Home Field Advantage - State

Who wins? Who the hell knows. This will be a big boy game. Whoever dominates the trenches and limits mistakes will win this game.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22666 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:56 am to
Wow, he skewed that a ton and even completely lied about some of the numbers.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:59 am to
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So if we are looking at our D vs your O, then Let's look at your strengths.

Rushing 14th in the nation you are. It's what we do on defense extremely well. You average 268 per game, MSU only allows 98.
And you guys average 274 while we only allow 100.

The averages between the two are almost identical. Auburn & MSU average 5.58 yards per rush. MSU defense allows 2.89 yards per carry. Auburn's allows 2.90.

But, this doesn't account for the teams played. The best rushing team MSU has played is UAB. The best rushing team Auburn has played is Arkansas.
quote:

Again, you are looking at the stats and not taking into account the facts. Things like Dak only playing 2.5 quarters per game up until the SEC. Would his stats be far higher and better if we had played him the whole time? You know it.
And yet, Prescott still leads Marshall by 53 more plays thru 5 games (206 vs 153).

In fact, Prescott is responsible for 53.5% of MSU's total offensive plays so far this season. Marshall only 42.1%.
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Kinda misleading. The game was not on the line and I'm not even going to debate that. But feel free to continue to go with our pass defense sucks.
MSU this season.

1st half
53% completion percentage
766 yards
12.6 yards per completion
6.7 yards per attempt

2nd half
52.6% completion percentage
875 yards
14.6 yards per completion
7.7 yards per attempt


The big disparity between the two halves comes from TDs & INTs. 2 vs 7 & 6 vs 3. However, the teams are still moving the ball thru the air on your first team defense. Undeniable at this point.
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He is. They go 15, 14, 9, 9, 9. Although the last guy with 9 receptions is managing 5.4 YPC. Beast.

Also Auburn is 25, 10, 9, 8, 8. Not really the difference he is implying.
Absolutely. Auburn's top 5 receivers have caught 60 passes on 123 attempts (48.8%). MSU's top 5 receivers have caught 56 passes on 139 attempts (40.3%).
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:11 am to
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MSU wins QB slot by a mile. Running back goes to Auburn.


Agreed.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7994 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:45 am to
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Coaching - Push


Anyone who believes this is dense. One hand, you have a coach that has lead the biggest turnaround in college history and on the other, you have a coach that pumps the shitter into the gutter. This isn't even close.

I get the love for Dak, he's been impressive but I'd still pick Marshall, you can still pick Dak.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:55 am to
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Auburns Red Zone D 8th MSU RZ O 84th


After starting 1/4 in the Red Zone:

In Mississippi State's last 20 trips, they have scored 18 times, 16 of which were Touchdowns.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:57 am to
I think State is better on offense. Auburn probably has the better defense.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:27 am to
I remember when A&M was a sho-in for the Playoffs and UGA was going to win it all. Same knee jerk reaction from the rant about state.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:29 am to
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Anyone who believes this is dense.


There is more to coaching than just the head coach.....
Posted by KABoss02
Dallas
Member since Jul 2009
1362 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:32 am to
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QB - Push
RB - Slight AU
WR - Big AU
TE - Push
OL - Miss St.
DL - slight Ms. State
LB - slight Ms. State
DB - BIG AU
K - AU
P - Big state
Coaching - AU


Having watched us play both:

QB - MSU, by comfortable margin
RB - MSU, but close
WR - AU comfortable
TE - Push - who cares
OL - MSU
DL - MSU
LB - MSU
DB - AU, not big though
K - AU
P - MSU
Coaching - AU, big - Mullen struggles late in games
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I remember when A&M was a shoe-in for the Playoffs and UGA was going to win it all. Same knee jerk reaction from the rant about state.


Yep, usually it is just the Grinders, but this time some other fans are grinding with them. It's always fun to see how quiet this place gets after Auburn beats them like usual. Come back Sunday, it is a wonderful time.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7994 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:01 am to
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There is more to coaching than just the head coach.....


Well, your argument is convincing. That part where you pointed out that there is more to coaching than just head coach was very compelling.

Would you care to elaborate just a touch more?
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:19 pm to
MSU will be like A&M was a week ago, An overated team with a QB that can pour it on bad teams
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:21 pm to
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I don't even know any auburn running back names.


Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Would you care to elaborate just a touch more?


Sure

JB Grimes, Ellis Johnson, Charlie Harbison, and Melvin Smith have all coached at Mississippi State. That's not a very impressive lineup right off the bat.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:34 pm to
The same staff that took a 3-9 team to the BCSCG last year?

Gotcha
Posted by colors_of_kings
Tiger Country
Member since Aug 2014
1506 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:56 pm to
MSU linemen are big and nasty. They'll punch you in the mouth and stomp you in the groin!
Posted by DakAttack22
Starkville
Member since Sep 2014
80 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Rb- slight AU Wr- Big AU

HA. I'll take J Rob over any running back in the sec minus Gurley and Yeldon. And I agree AU has some great WR but they do not by any means have a big" advantage because state is stacked as well
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:10 pm to
Lol at Push at QB
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