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Josh Kendall of The Athletic paraphrased - The SEC will do what it wants

Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:44 pm
@finebaum - Josh Kendall, The Athletic tweet

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Paul Finebaum
@finebaum

@JoshTheAthletic tells us that the SEC has "everything on the table" regarding its options for the 2020 season. "If the SEC’s only option is to play football by themselves and crown a champion in Atlanta, they’ll do that.”


Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:49 pm to
he has a point. But with ESPN being so political the SEC Championship /National Title game might be on HGTV.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:49 pm to
I'm down to actually play every SEC team for a season.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:50 pm to
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But with ESPN being so political the SEC Championship /National Title game might be on HGTV.


You're underestimating the almighty dollar
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:52 pm to
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I'm down to actually play every SEC team for a season.



I think we might do that for a year and look around and go "Why the hell aren't we just doing this all the time?"
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:54 pm to
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Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:55 pm to
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But with ESPN being so political the SEC Championship /National Title game might be on HGTV.


ESPN is broadcasting Asian baseball games live right now. They’re hemorrhaging money. They will broadcast any and everything they possibly can
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm down to actually play every SEC team for a season. 


Put Clemson and Ohio State in and see if they can lose less than two games.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm down to actually play every SEC team for a season.


My ideal CFB format would be 8 11 team conferences that all play 10 conference games.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:56 pm to
But the NCAA could overrule that scenario if they want
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:57 pm to
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But with ESPN being so political the SEC Championship /National Title game might be on HGTV.


My guess is it’d still be on CBS
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:57 pm to
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But the NCAA could overrule that scenario if they want

No they really can’t.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:58 pm to
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But the NCAA could overrule that scenario if they want


I don't know the specifics but isn't football much less centralized in terms of things like that than all the other sports? The NCAA is in charge of players and amateur rules, but most of the other stuff (logistics, playoffs, bowls, games) are either decided by the conferences or other "committees" (playoff committee, bowl committees, etc) right?

I mean I'm sure if the NCAA really wanted to stop it they could put together some sort of rules re: the players themselves, but I don't think they can tell the SEC how to schedule their games.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:59 pm to
That’s not how it seemed from the March madness and college baseball. The ncaa cancelled all the championships first but there was a brief window before all the conferences followed suit that conferences could finish their own tournaments and even have their own conference baseball season
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:03 pm to
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That’s not how it seemed from the March madness and college baseball. The ncaa cancelled all the championships first but there was a brief window before all the conferences followed suit that conferences could finish their own tournaments and even have their own conference baseball season



Yep - and the NCAA isn't even in charge of the championship portion of football like it is with the other sports.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:10 pm to
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I don't know the specifics but isn't football much less centralized in terms of things like that than all the other sports? The NCAA is in charge of players and amateur rules, but most of the other stuff (logistics, playoffs, bowls, games) are either decided by the conferences or other "committees" (playoff committee, bowl committees, etc) right?

I mean I'm sure if the NCAA really wanted to stop it they could put together some sort of rules re: the players themselves, but I don't think they can tell the SEC how to schedule their games.

The NCAA only has control over the amateurism of athletes and making sure teams an players follow NCAA bylaws. As far as playing actual games, my understanding is they only control NCAA sanctioned events. Regular season games are not sanctioned by the NCAA. For instance, spring NCAA tournaments were cancelled before the SEC cancelled the SEC tournament and SEC games, and then it was up to the individual schools to cancel their OOC games. Like you said, the CFP, bowl games, conference champions, etc. are out of the scope of their control. Football may find itself in a unique position to tell the NCAA to kindly buzz off if they try to shut it down and schools/conferences want to play.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:17 pm to
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I mean I'm sure if the NCAA really wanted to stop it they could put together some sort of rules re: the players themselves, but I don't think they can tell the SEC how to schedule their games.

All the NCAA has to do is say "any players that participate in games during the 2020 season will forfeit any remaining eligibility"
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:18 pm to
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All the NCAA has to do is say "any players that participate in games during the 2020 season will forfeit any remaining eligibility"



Exactly, but they'd have to feel pretty strongly about it to do that, I think. I don't know if they do or not.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm down to actually play every SEC team for a season.


Ditto.

Do away with divisions for 2020, have all 14 teams play each other, and the two teams with the best record meet in Atlanta for the 14th and final game.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65368 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:21 pm to
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All the NCAA has to do is say "any players that participate in games during the 2020 season will forfeit any remaining eligibility"


It's not so simple to just create a rule

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While each NCAA division is empowered with setting its own rules and operating guidelines, some topics rise to a level affecting college sports as a whole and need a coordinated voice to guide the Association in a unified direction. For those situations, a group of committees comprising representatives from all three divisions makes recommendations that can impact the entire Association — whether a small, private Division III school or a national champion Football Bowl Subdivision program — equally.

The Association-wide committees work collaboratively with each division’s governance bodies to recommend legislation. These committees explore issues impacting sports rules changes, the health and safety of student-athletes or opportunities for women and minority groups in college sports, and recommend changes to the appropriate legislative groups.

The NCAA Board of Governors, the highest-ranking committee in the Association, can implement policies by which all three divisions must abide. When the NCAA stopped allowing schools to host championships if their state governments displayed the Confederate flag, it was through a Board of Governors policy change.

Changes in legislation, however, require each division to take action. The Association-wide groups propose changes to the committees in each division, which then debate and vote on the proposals through their legislative processes.


And if the NCAA ever tried to take such an authoritarian stance like that, it would not bode well for them as an organization moving forward.

Here's a link to the NCAA administrative bylaws. Section 5 talks about the process for rule implementation
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This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 4:26 pm
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