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re: John Gruden picks Bama over the LSU

Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:11 am to
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:11 am to
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Freddie Kitchens-like passing attack.

I actually let out a laugh on this one. I almost forgot all about that guy.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:11 am to
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Unfortunately for Bama, those also count.


Which is why I said LSU could win. But, I was discussing the offense.
Posted by Bricktop
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
321 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:12 am to
De ja vue. Everybody picks Bama and we kick your tails. I'll take it. The bottom line is that LSU matches up well against Bama. Our strengths negate your strengths from our defense to your offense standpoint.

You can sit here and quote every pick pro Bama all day, however it won't help you win. Also note, LSU did not play well on offense Nov 5. partly due to your defense and partly LSU played tight given it was road game. We did the same thing when we opened up with Oregon. LSU settled in and blasted them.

Don't get me wrong Bama is a great team and so is LSU. That is why can't wait for Jan 9. The difference in this game is your sophomore QB against our senior QB. I hope LSU identifies all Bama's offensive tendencies. One that stands out is on every pass play McCarron's first check is Richardson. LSU needs to spy TR on those plays.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:13 am to
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I actually let out a laugh on this one. I almost forgot all about that guy.



JJ's passing actually does remind me of him. Although most will consider it an insult, I just meant it as an observation. Cannon for an arm, but limited accuracy and one speed of pass - warp speed.
Posted by tonydatigah
Youngsville, La
Member since Aug 2007
638 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:33 am to
Everyone gets upset when these guys pick against their team. Most of these "experts" all pick Bama mostly because they are infatuated with Saban. Most don't look closely at all the intangibles of the matchup. They just are in love with Saban and don't see how he can lose to Miles 3 straight times. I feel confident in my Tigers and Les to bring home the prize. That and $10 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. It is great to have a game where the matchup is so close that you can visualize any number of scenarios happening. Who shows up? What team plays tight? Who plays better on special teams? Who makes the costly turnovers? What unsung player has a breakout game? These are the type of things that will decide who wins. I wish analysts would look at these factors instead of just basing it on a coach. That is probably what rubs LSU fans the wrong way. We love our coach and get pissed that he gets no respect from the media. I know people will say the media love him and they do but when it comes to saying it is Miles vs "insert coach here" they usually never pick Les. He flys under the radar so much that no one really analyzes what it is that he does and just dismisses it as "he has great talent".
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3223 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:35 am to
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John Gruden picks Bama over the LSU


Well, that settles it. I guess he won't be our next coach when Miles leaves.

On to Jack Del Rio!
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30106 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 9:50 am to
I don't get that, either (although I'm probably more pro-Miles than 95% of the Rantards). Just because he has had a few interesting episodes with the clock does not negate what he has done with the Tigers.
Hell, Saban's decisions to attempt FGs with Foster are as tactically unexplainable as any of Miles' clock management issues.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:02 am to
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It's amazing all the experts will still pick Bama, even though yall shite the bed at home and this will be a home game for LSU, not to mention we have a better football team


1) Our team has played better on the road in The Swamp, in Happy Valley, and in Auburn for the Iron Bowl, the Dome won't matter.

2) Nooo, you see, WE have the better team.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:02 am to
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LSU has beaten as many top 3 teams this year as the gumps have beaten teams with winning records.


BS post of the day. You guys are so full of shite on this point. The only significant difference in our schedule is you played Oregon, BFD!!. We played the same SEC schedule, oh excuse me you played UGA in the SECCG, like we wouldn't had a similar result. You need to check your BS on this point. Go compare schedules and tell us what you learned.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20998 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:04 am to
who give a shite.
Posted by chipd
Seattle
Member since Jul 2011
373 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:05 am to
I enjoy watching Gruden do film breakdown, but I am getting very tired of him on MNF. He praises everyone with such hyperbole that it is nauseating. I think Jaws is sick of it and I am just waiting for him to go off on Gruden.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:05 am to
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Go compare schedules and tell us what you learned.


Beat the Number 2 team on the road.


Your turn
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:08 am to
THIS GUY did a good job if most actually believe that was an actual interview...
This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 10:08 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:14 am to
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BS post of the day. You guys are so full of shite on this point. The only significant difference in our schedule is you played Oregon, BFD!!. We played the same SEC schedule, oh excuse me you played UGA in the SECCG, like we wouldn't had a similar result. You need to check your BS on this point. Go compare schedules and tell us what you learned.


Actually, he's right. Alabama beat 3 teams with a winning record. LSU beat 3 top 3 teams (Oregon, Alabama, and Arkansas). Unless you count Georgia Southern, then Bama has beaten 4 teams with a winning record

But Arkansas and Oregon are clearly not top 3, in 3...2...1...
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 10:35 am to
I pick LSU....sooooooooooooooooooooo
Posted by KCinDC
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1520 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:02 am to
There goes Gruden's chances of being the next head coach at LSU!

Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Everyone gets upset when these guys pick against their team. Most of these "experts" all pick Bama mostly because they are infatuated with Saban. Most don't look closely at all the intangibles of the matchup. They just are in love with Saban and don't see how he can lose to Miles 3 straight times. I feel confident in my Tigers and Les to bring home the prize. That and $10 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. It is great to have a game where the matchup is so close that you can visualize any number of scenarios happening. Who shows up? What team plays tight? Who plays better on special teams? Who makes the costly turnovers? What unsung player has a breakout game? These are the type of things that will decide who wins. I wish analysts would look at these factors instead of just basing it on a coach. That is probably what rubs LSU fans the wrong way. We love our coach and get pissed that he gets no respect from the media. I know people will say the media love him and they do but when it comes to saying it is Miles vs "insert coach here" they usually never pick Les. He flys under the radar so much that no one really analyzes what it is that he does and just dismisses it as "he has great talent".


Everything you said was right on target except the Saban worship thing. There are some analyts that probably give him too much credit but I doubt the Gruden types do. He is highly analytical and has seen it top to bottom in the NFL and CFB.

IMO, here is the equation for the game
Bama Offense > LSU Offense (mainly pass off)
Bama Defense >= LSU Defense
LSU P/FG >> Bama P/FG

Most analysts look at offense/defense only so you can see how most go with Bama. But FG/P's mean a lot in a defensive game. Les also had a better plan on Nov5 than Saban and is 3-2 with Saban. There's not much in home field advantage since both schools get even amount of tickets, maybe 55/45 LSU at most.

Last time I said we'd win by 10-14,(I know what the damn score was 9-6). Looking at this again I'm not so sure. My keys to the game are:

1) Can JJ move the ball against our defense this time?
2) Will LSU defense be able to pressure AJ?

If the answer both is yes then I would say LSU wins. If yes/no then pretty equal depending on how much of each. If no/no then Bama should win.

I have assumed that AJ will complete a lot of passes if not pressured and that LSU will contain TR as much as possible. I also assume no punt returns by HB7 or KO's for TD by either side. And TO's equal.



This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 11:13 am
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:10 am to
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Besides two blown coverages and two good runs he did absolutely jack shite on 9-5-11


Great....not this shite again...someone ban this frick..thank god those "two good runs and "blown" coverages" count....FWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...LSU FANS..WHAT IF THOSE DIDN'T HAPPEN??!?!?!? I think the score would've been something like 9-6 still.
Posted by HaloWarriors
Murfreesboro, TN
Member since Feb 2010
3351 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:13 am to
Does it really matter what one person thinks or believes who will win? Does this have any impact on the game at all? fricking stupid if you give one shite about what these guys say. It matters not.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:32 am to
regardless of what happened Nov 5th....this isn't then....this is NOW...1 game. GAME ON TROLLS.
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