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John Cohen’s HFC short list at MSU

Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:38 am
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9162 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:38 am
For those unaware or in need of a reminder, let’s take a history lesson. When Mullen left in 2017, Cohen was tasked to fill the vacancy and here were the names SERIOUSLY considered by Cohen at that time, all of whom were offered or made the second interview…

Billy Napier currently 4-4 (declined offer)
Brent Venables currently 5-3 (interviewed)
Joe Moorhead currently 1-8 (hired)

After squandering easily the most talented team I’ve ever seen in maroon and white and after rampant reports of losing the program, to his credit, Cohen cut bait and fired Moorhead…the search continued in 2020…

Joe Judge was offered the job, but in the 13th hour picked the NY Giants HC job and proceeded to go 10-23 and was fired after only two seasons.

Which brings us to Leach…currently 16-16 as HC at MSU. Now, clearly Mississippi State is at a disadvantage to most of the schools in the SEC, but schools like Florida, Oklahoma, and a once successful NFL team are in different stratospheres in comparison to MSU, but the selections Cohen has made have so far been weak (at best) and a pattern is forming in his inability to decipher what a program builder looks like. If those guys can’t get it done with the built in advantages and resources at blue blood programs, it’s a safe bet that they all, save leach (who is still a too early to call), would have been unmitigated disasters at MSU, as they are barely relevant, or trending towards the hot seat, at powerhouse programs.

Good luck convincing Cohen on anything. He thinks he’s a genius, but his results prove otherwise.

I think that only a 2-3 coaches I’ve seen on the wish list have a real shot at turning auburn around…better hope Cohen has the same vision….if not, y’all are ferkt


Posted by Between TheHedges
Message Board Genius
Member since Aug 2022
3721 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:41 am to
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Billy Napier currently 4-4 (declined offer)

False

Napier’s pr team made this up to make him seem like a more attractive candidate.

Truthfully a lot of schools didn’t offer him because they knew he was a bad coach.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9162 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:47 am to
It’s pretty well known in MSU circles Cohen went hard after Napier and later circled back two years later…


Napier says “no” to MSU
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 1:44 am to
Moorhead totally wasted all that talent we had. I could have won 8 games myself. The defense was very good but stayed on the field all damn day because his offense completely sucked. Moorhead was not ready for that job.
Posted by SRV
Banging in The Rock
Member since Nov 2021
1183 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:53 am to

It’s too early to tell on Leach, 32 games in, but Napier is a failure after 8 games? Just checking the math on that one?

Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3415 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:29 am to
Let it go my man! He is gone!
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
466 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:48 am to
None of this will matter. Cohen won't have anything to do with picking the next Auburn football coach.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:51 am to
quote:

None of this will matter. Cohen won't have anything to do with picking the next Auburn football coach.


So the President throws his dick on the table and hires an AD without consulting the booster system yet is going to let the boosters hire a coach? That seems illogical.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11857 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:52 am to
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None of this will matter. Cohen won't have anything to do with picking the next Auburn football coach


This!

We let the last AD pick the coach see how that went down. We will hire whomever Herbert and Yeallafella agree on.

quote:

That seems illogica


You don’t pay attention to Auburn coaching hires
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 6:53 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71238 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 6:55 am to
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Moorhead totally wasted all that talent we had


His name was Gurt!
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:13 am to
quote:

We let the last AD pick the coach see how that went down. We will hire whomever Herbert and Yeallafella agree on.


You tried with Hartwell and Freeze but when the President found out the booster choice for AD was wrapped in a sexual assault cover up scandal, he went scorched earth and decided to do it his way.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9409 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:15 am to
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Moorhead totally wasted all that talent we had. I could have won 8 games myself. The defense was very good but stayed on the field all damn day because his offense completely sucked. Moorhead was not ready for that job.


That year still pisses me off so bad. I'd love to punch Moorhead in his arrogant face for that crap. Better yet, I'd rather punch John Cohen in his woke face for that crap. Waste of talent.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9162 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:26 am to
He apparently isn’t ready for Acron either
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16993 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:35 am to
Looks like a great list as far as Miss State goes.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4398 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:45 am to
I think it’s too early to call Napier a failure. He may fail but it’s still very early.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16068 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:46 am to
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Now, clearly Mississippi State is at a disadvantage to most of the schools in the SEC, but schools like Florida, Oklahoma, and a once successful NFL team are in different stratospheres in comparison to MSU
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90508 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:55 am to
Mullen would have won 10-11 games with that 2018 team in his offense.

He would have beat UK and Florida for sure and probably LSU.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:05 am to
He was so bad at MSU that they recently offered him an extension in JULY

Cohen "signed a four-year extension at Mississippi State in July that raised his salary" to $1.1M from $950,000.
link

Posted by Mardye McDole
Columbus, MS
Member since Jan 2013
107 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:12 am to
We went to Tampa for the Outback Bowl. It pissed me off so bad that one of our best defenses ever lost to a slow Iowa team. We flat-out got outcoached.
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