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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:39 am
The thread on the upcoming Tennessee coaching search got me thinking, and I'd love to hear tRant's opinion:
Is Tennessee a better job than A&M?
Is Auburn a better job than Tennessee?
How likely are established P5 coaches to leave their gigs for another college job? Going from Vandy to Penn State seems to make sense. Going from Wisconsin to Arkansas, looks to be a bad move (obviously, there were some extenuating circumstances there).
Is Tennessee a better job than A&M?
Is Auburn a better job than Tennessee?
How likely are established P5 coaches to leave their gigs for another college job? Going from Vandy to Penn State seems to make sense. Going from Wisconsin to Arkansas, looks to be a bad move (obviously, there were some extenuating circumstances there).
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:43 am to UAtide11
TAMU could be the best gig in the country if we were getting wins. Recruiting hotbed, facilities, and deep pockets. If we were getting Saban-like results, we could afford to pay more than Bama without batting an eye.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 am to Tantal
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TAMU could be the best gig in the country
Nope. Little brother mentality on a soviet style campus in a starkville-esque town.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 am to UAtide11
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Is Tennessee a better job than A&M?
Is Auburn a better job than Tennessee?
1- Yes
2- Equal
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:45 am to Tantal
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TAMU could be the best gig in the country if we were getting wins. Recruiting hotbed, facilities, and deep pockets. If we were getting Saban-like results, we could afford to pay more than Bama without batting an eye.
Everything is bigger in Texas, especially the delusion.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:45 am to UAtide11
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Is Tennessee a better job than A&M?
Is Auburn a better job than Tennessee?
honestly, I'd say they are about equal. each has its strengths and weaknesses
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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starkville-esque town.
Starkville population is ~30k
Bryan/College Station is ~300k
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:48 am to UAtide11
A&M should be a better job than UT, but I'm not sure it is. That said, between Texas and A&M, first one to hire the right coach could dominate the state for a while.
UT has to recruit nationally and that just isn't easy....although Lyle didn't have trouble getting talent to K'ville and neither did Freshwater.
UT I think is a better job than AU. Auburn does very well given the hand they were dealt.
UT has to recruit nationally and that just isn't easy....although Lyle didn't have trouble getting talent to K'ville and neither did Freshwater.
UT I think is a better job than AU. Auburn does very well given the hand they were dealt.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:52 am to UAtide11
1. Alabama
2. Georgia
T3. Florida
T3. LSU
T5. Tennessee
T5. Auburn
7. Texas A&M
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
T10. Ole Miss
T10. Missouri
12. Kentucky
13. Mississippi State
14. Vanderbilt
2. Georgia
T3. Florida
T3. LSU
T5. Tennessee
T5. Auburn
7. Texas A&M
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
T10. Ole Miss
T10. Missouri
12. Kentucky
13. Mississippi State
14. Vanderbilt
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:53 am to texag7
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Starkville population is ~30k
Bryan/College Station is ~300k
population is only part of the equation here. I'm just happy you're smart enough to not even both trying to argue prongs 1 or 2
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:54 am to NYCAuburn
I would think aTm has the potential to be the best job of the 3, but they can't seem to get out of their own way.
Case in point. Gene Stallings coaches at his alma mater aTm and gets fired after going 27-45-1. At Alabama he compiles a 70-16-1 record over the same amount of time.
Dennis Franchione comes to Bama after being arse-reamed for sanctions. Has a winning record and could have/should have won the SEC W had we been eligible. We know the demise he experienced at aTm.
I think aTm boosters (the whole state of Texas) has the same issues Bama did prior to Saban. All the money men have too much say so, and think they can run a program better than the coach.
Having said all that, I think UT is in the best position to be the best job. Only competitive football school in the state. It's the best thing going. If you got a good hot coach with the ability to recruit, I think UsluT could be as dominate a force as any in the top tier schools in the country.
Case in point. Gene Stallings coaches at his alma mater aTm and gets fired after going 27-45-1. At Alabama he compiles a 70-16-1 record over the same amount of time.
Dennis Franchione comes to Bama after being arse-reamed for sanctions. Has a winning record and could have/should have won the SEC W had we been eligible. We know the demise he experienced at aTm.
I think aTm boosters (the whole state of Texas) has the same issues Bama did prior to Saban. All the money men have too much say so, and think they can run a program better than the coach.
Having said all that, I think UT is in the best position to be the best job. Only competitive football school in the state. It's the best thing going. If you got a good hot coach with the ability to recruit, I think UsluT could be as dominate a force as any in the top tier schools in the country.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to UAtide11
A&M has lots of money and the excitement of moving to the SEC still fresh. UT has 20 years of mostly disappointments.
So I'll go with A&M.
Auburn has a couple championship appearances, a national title and probably should have been there once more in the last 15 years. UT has 2 SEC East championships and 6 losing seasons in that span.
So I have to go with Auburn.
So I'll go with A&M.
Auburn has a couple championship appearances, a national title and probably should have been there once more in the last 15 years. UT has 2 SEC East championships and 6 losing seasons in that span.
So I have to go with Auburn.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
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population is only part of the equation here.
Then give the rest of your "equation". Don't be scared
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to Tantal
I don't mean this as a flame , but you guys have historically under performed.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
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Case in point. Gene Stallings coaches at his alma mater aTm and gets fired after going 27-45-1. At Alabama he compiles a 70-16-1 record over the same amount of time.
Dennis Franchione comes to Bama after being arse-reamed for sanctions. Has a winning record and could have/should have won the SEC W had we been eligible. We know the demise he experienced at aTm.
these 2 examples suggest this:
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aTm has the potential to be the best job of the 3
isn't true
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 am to texag7
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Then give the rest of your "equation".
like Starkville, it's a boring, lame arse town with boring, lame arse people.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:59 am to Tantal
That's a lot of ifs
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
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like Starkville, it's a boring, lame arse town with boring, lame arse people.
Just as I predicted. Some irrelevant opinion which means zilch
College Station will continue to grow and thrive. Eat your heart out
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
If the state legistlature of Mississippi would end either State's or Ole Miss' football programs, the survivor would be in a very good situation.
Maybe a bit under LSU's recruiting situation, but very good.
Hmmm hadn't thought about it in a while, but you could say the same for Cackalackky and Clemson. Since I know that one won't ever happen, I'm sure the Ole Miss/State indecent proposal is equally impossible.
But if all you want to do is win games...
Maybe a bit under LSU's recruiting situation, but very good.
Hmmm hadn't thought about it in a while, but you could say the same for Cackalackky and Clemson. Since I know that one won't ever happen, I'm sure the Ole Miss/State indecent proposal is equally impossible.
But if all you want to do is win games...
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:03 am to UAtide11
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Is Tennessee a better job than A&M?
Is Auburn a better job than Tennessee?
All three programs are top tier jobs, imo. They are pretty equal as far as what they can offer to a potential coach. I think the difference is so minimal that it will all come down to personal preference and roster for any incoming coach.
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