Started By
Message

re: Jimbo can’t coach

Posted on 1/13/22 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80391 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Realistically, we don't know that King would've been much better.


Yes we do. Even when throwing 3 interceptions (2 were deflections off the WR's hands) against Kent State, King threw for more yards during the season opener than Calzada has ever thrown for in a single game.

He was also the second-fastest player on the team behind Devon Achane. That factor alone would cause problems for opposing defenses and mask OL problems.

Against Kent State, he completed 63.6% of his passes for 292 yards and 2 TD as well as running for 22 yards on 5 carries.

Zach Calzada had two total games in which he had a better completion percentage: Alabama (67.7%) and Prairie View (71.4%). His career high in rushing was 28 yards on 7 carries against Colorado. That was the only game in which he had more than 15 yards rushing, one of 5 games in which he had greater than ZERO yards rushing, and one of 3 games in which he had double-digit rushing yards.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52941 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Yes we do. Even when throwing 3 interceptions (2 were deflections off the WR's hands) against Kent State, King threw for more yards during the season opener than Calzada has ever thrown for in a single game.



No offense but this is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen here.

You're saying we know King is better because he threw for more yards than Calzada ever did, versus Kent State.

You conveniently left out the fact that Calzada threw for 7 less yards on 2 less attempts versus freaking ALABAMA.

Take your homer glasses off, there's literally no evidence that King was any better than the Calzone.



Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3483 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Bruh he’s not even as good as orgeron


Jimbo beat Ogreron twice including the 7 OT beatdown
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

the 7 OT beatdown


I am not sure you can call any OT win a beatdown
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52941 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

A&M did not have a significant talent edge in those 4 games and especially at the QB position. 


But you were objectively more talented than every team you lost to.

Technically not LSU but they were playing their practice squad.

quote:

Next year that won't be the case though.


Ah.

The old Aggie "next year" sentiment.

Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:25 pm to
I don't think king being healthy would have resulted in us winning the SECw division but I think we would have lost probably 2 less games with him. Maybe less than that when you consider we only lost our games by an average of less than 7 points. It's too close to tell.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Maybe less than that when you consider we only lost our games by an average of less than 7 points.


That is always a dangerous rabbit hole.

Every year, you can pretty much look at 2 more wins, but you could also earn another loss or two.

For us GA State and Alabama are the two I think of.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted by fhsdemonfan3131
Franklinton
Member since Feb 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:32 pm to
He’s a horrible coach he lost to Ed O and Minimum Johnson aka noodle arm
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
229 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:41 pm to
@Colonel Ingus - Injury excuses at $9M/yr are for losers. Georgia just won an NC with a walk-on QB vs a 1st yr QB with both 5-star WR hurt.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 2:44 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:43 pm to
Here are King's highlights from the Kent State game. Haynes King highlights-Kent State

There are multiple plays he makes that Calzada simply was not capable of. His ability to evade pressure was especially key because A&M had such a young OL this year and he was much faster on pulling the trigger and had no fear of throwing the deep ball. This was also in his first game so odds are he was going to continue to improve. No guarantees of course but watching this it's pretty clear why King was the starter.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

@Colonel Ingus - Injury excuses at $9M/yr are for losers. Georgia just won an NC with a walk-on QB vs a 1st yr QB with both 5-star WR hurt.


No one is excusing the losses. We lost. The question was about whether or not A&M had significantly more talent than those 4 teams and that makes who is playing in those games relevant.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52941 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

This was also in his first game so odds are he was going to continue to improve. 


People said this about Kenny Hill too.

And he didn't throw 3 interceptions vs cupcakes.
Posted by LatinTiger30
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
4428 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 2:52 pm to
Can’t keep all players happy and no doubt some players will transfer, but players will transfer any way
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
229 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

No one is excusing the losses. We lost. The question was about whether or not A&M had significantly more talent than those 4 teams and that makes who is playing in those games relevant.
So after 4 yrs Jimbo hasn't significantly recruited better than Ark, MSU, and OM (incl 3rd string LSU) with all those Jillion dollar facilities and donors? And aggy is the only program that has injuries? Really? Really? Then what is Jimbo good at? Chewing out his QB after every play. Watch him. It's pathetic.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:10 pm to
Totally disagree, to but time will tell
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:13 pm to
7 OTs a beatdown??? I'm gonna assume you are joking..
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80391 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

And he didn't throw 3 interceptions vs cupcakes.


2014 Texas A&M had 4 returning starters on the offensive line from the 2013 season (Germain Ifedi, Cedric Ogbuehi, Mike Matthews, Jarvis Harrison). Two of those were 1st Round picks.

2021 Texas A&M had 1 (Kenyon Green) and started a true freshman at Center in their opener.

The 2022 A&M offensive line will be far more experienced, returning 3 starters.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

quote:
This was also in his first game so odds are he was going to continue to improve.



People said this about Kenny Hill too.

And he didn't throw 3 interceptions vs cupcakes.


True, it can happen. That said Kenny Hill is a very unusual case of a guy that had his best game ever in his first game. That's why I said "odds are" because virtually all QB's improve with experience.

That was also the case with Calzada btw, he was horrible against Colorado and Arkie and not much better against State. Then he had his shining moment against Bama but really had no other games where he was above average. Even against Bama he had a costly interception and his stats were just pretty good (21/31 for 285). He went ice cold in the 3rd quarter into the 4th and Bama nearly won. The kid had a lot of heart but he just wasn't that good and had multiple flaws that were very hard to overcome.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

You can’t post.

Not true

He can't post well
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55394 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:47 pm to
Nice melt
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter