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re: Jeremy Pruitt’s take on The Cocktail Party being played in Jacksonville (he's not a fan)

Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Kingcmo
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:18 am to
Pruitt is behind the times. With the December signing day most official visits are now happening in the summer. The fall will be mostly to take unofficial visits for game day atmosphere. The cocktail party will be fine.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7270 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:45 am to
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and your signaure line is a lie.

UGA - 7 National Titles, 15 Conference Titles, 2 Heisman Trophy winners

according to ncaa.com UGA has 2 national titles.


That's because UGA was the CONSENSUS 1942 champion; Ohio St was the AP champion and is the only poll listed for that year on the NCAA website. As the consensus champion, UGA claims it -- and rightfully so. The other 4 listed are years UGA was voted #1 by one or more NCAA-recognized polls (1920, 1927, 1946, 1968), although UGA doesn't yet claim them. I CLAIM them on their behalf (sorta like what Alabama does)!

For a more comprehensive list of national champions, see: College Football National Champions in Division 1 FBS
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 11:46 am
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2344 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:50 am to
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Pruitt is behind the times. With the December signing day most official visits are now happening in the summer. The fall will be mostly to take unofficial visits for game day atmosphere. The cocktail party will be fine.

There was a thread on this game a few weeks ago. My question was why does UGA do this when they only get half the tickets in a stadium smaller than in Athens (it became much easier to get home Iron Bowl tix when the game moved to the campuses). The gist of the thread was that the UGA people like the trip, plan around it, and don't want it to be home and home. JP has at least a theoretical point but if Kirby doesn't care then why should anyone else?
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7270 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:50 am to
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the fact that Arky doesn't bitch and moan about their drive to Dallas for the aTm game is very telling about just how sandy Georgia's vagina is in regards to the Florida game in Jax.

Easy for you to say...Gators only have to drive 60 miles to Jax while UGA is 340 miles from Jax.

A&M from Dallas = 181 miles
UA from Dallas = 333 miles

To make it more equitable, why don't we move the game to Atlanta one year and then Jax the next and rotate those two cities into the game, huh?

If they did, you Gators would start your usual crying like always.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7270 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:53 am to
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There was a thread on this game a few weeks ago. My question was why does UGA do this when they only get half the tickets in a stadium smaller than in Athens (it became much easier to get home Iron Bowl tix when the game moved to the campuses). The gist of the thread was that the UGA people like the trip, plan around it, and don't want it to be home and home. JP has at least a theoretical point but if Kirby doesn't care then why should anyone else?

Most UGA fans want to keep it in Jax -- including ME! I'm just stating the facts surrounding the rivalry in terms of Jax not being a neutral site due to a predominate Gator fanbase there and its close proximity to the UF campus, etc. It's NOT neutral. However, we're not complaining, at least not enough to make UGA switch locations -- yet.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:57 am to
You said UGA was consensus #1 in 1942, then you provided a link that shows Ohio State was the #1 team in that year as judged by both the leading polls, AP and Coaches poll.



Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:09 pm to
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You said UGA was consensus #1 in 1942, then you provided a link that shows Ohio State was the #1 team in that year as judged by both the leading polls, AP and Coaches poll.



I was also distracted by the fact that Georgia's coach was named Wally Butts.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7270 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:10 pm to
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You said UGA was consensus #1 in 1942, then you provided a link that shows Ohio State was the #1 team in that year as judged by both the leading polls, AP and Coaches poll.

Ohio St wasn't selected by the coaches poll in 1942 as there was NO coaches poll until the UPI came along in 1951. The AP came along in 1936.

What is meant by "consensus" is the majority of NCAA-recognized pollsters voting for a particular team. The majority of pollsters selected UGA in 1942. Both UGA & OSU rightfully claim 1942. Wisconsin also has the right to claim 1942 if they want as they were selected national champions by one NCAA-recognized poll.
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:20 pm to
I've always heard that the main reason the game is in Jax from a Georgia perspective is that the most loyal (and some say largest) sector of the Dawg fanbase is in South Georgia, and this game is for them. Jax is closer for a lot of them, especially in southeast Georgia, than Athens is. Also, in late October, more times than not, the weather is still fine for hitting the beaches on the Golden Iles and NE Fla. I've heard that people that own houses and condos on St. Simons and Sea Islands can pay for about 9 mortgage payments during Georgia-Florida week alone. The Cocktail Party ain't going no where.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35702 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Easy for you to say...Gators only have to drive 60 miles to Jax while UGA is 340 miles from Jax.








"woe is me. i have to drive 340 miles for a free win. waaaahhhhh!!!!"
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41499 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:33 pm to
Move it then. I am tired of hearing Georgia bitch about it.

Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

My question was why does UGA do this when they only get half the tickets in a stadium smaller than in Athens (it became much easier to get home Iron Bowl tix when the game moved to the campuses). The gist of the thread was that the UGA people like the trip, plan around it, and don't want it to be home and home. JP has at least a theoretical point but if Kirby doesn't care then why should anyone else?
Because partying and socializing at the beach is more important than the game itself. I've been following the Dawgs since Dooley's first year in 1964, and Georgia-Florida week not in Jax is just unimaginable from my corner. Whether people of other fanbases understand that or not is of no importance to me.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44950 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Jax is predominately pro-Gator and always has been


Uhh, what? That crowd is always a 50/50 split and Georgia brings a ton of fans down for the game. It's a short trip.

I wish our fans (and Kirby, frankly) would stop bitching about this. WLOCP is an awesome tradition that goes completely out the window if the game is moved. Moving it to Athens or Gainesville means it becomes just another rivalry game.

Like it or not, the neutral site and tradition is why this game is special and is why this game is given the royal treatment by CBS every year even in the down years (2010) when both teams suck.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44950 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Easy for you to say...Gators only have to drive 60 miles to Jax while UGA is 340 miles from Jax.


I'd be willing to bet that UGA's flight from Ben Epps to Jax Executive Airport is shorter than Florida's bus ride from Gainesville.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35702 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:53 pm to
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I wish our fans (and Kirby, frankly) would stop bitching about this.


yeah, instead of complaining about how it "hurts" recruiting because of he can't sell the Athens experience, he could sell the tradition of playing in an NFL stadium. and opportunity that not all college players get to experience.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:57 pm to
Cant play ourselves....
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:00 pm to
At one time the largest UGA alum association chapter outside the state of Georgia was the Jacksonville chapter. Don't know if that's the case now, but it is something to take into consideration. Jax isn't just a Gator town by any means. Probably why the game is played there, to begin with.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7323 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:06 pm to
Okay, but the issue is WHAT GAMES are you going to use so EVERYBODY has a "neutral site"?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7323 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:08 pm to
HOME/HOME!!!

Dump Jax!!!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7323 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:12 pm to
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If those few teams think it's that unfair, they can just schedule all their conference games home-and-away like everyone else


I'm fine with Dumping Jax!
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