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re: It's official; SEC to remain at 8 games, but must play one other "major" team

Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:19 pm to
Aight

Sonny is fighting the good fight. Damn trooper.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:20 pm to
I got you. I thought you were in favor of going to 9 over this
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
1934 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:36 pm to
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Indeed they do but they're not major teams. C'mon no SEC school should be scheduling those two except as a substitute over the even lower level cupcake game like Austin Peay.


Northwestern is no cupcake. Their last 5 year record is very decent and they have been to several recent bowls.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7281 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:43 pm to
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Damn Good Dawg
It's official; SEC to remain at 8 games, but must play one other "major" team
As a Georgia fan you should be happy about the decision. Or that G next to your handle is a farce in which case you're a damn communist.


Am I happy the rivalry games are kept? Yes
Do I think we should have stayed @ 8? NO - for the reasons I mentioned above (you INCREASE the conference, you INCREASE conference games (same arguments were made about 1992))

1. 6-1-2 seeing the West teams 4X in 12 years (as opposed to 2X in 12) gets more teams playing each other - which coaches want....also what FANS want.
2. People want to see 7 MORE SEC vrs. SEC games.....NOT 14 SEC vrs. Podunk College - which is what WILL happen if they don't prohibit that. Are you happy seeing the Miss. schools scheduling ONLY to get to 6 W's a year (4 of them being the non-conf. games)?
3. I honestly don't know what ESPN will do - as in can they force the 9 game setup?
4. As I've ALWAYS pushed, 6-1-2 + 1 "Power 5" game puts everybody @ 10 quality games.
5. The 1 side has 5H/year is an unfortunate drawback to going to 14 teams (a difficult # to schedule around). Teams can work around this & follow the WLOCP by having a neutral site game.....unless you prefer to move the Ga./Fl. game to the school sites (which I'ld be happy to see). However, the positive about that 5H/year setup would be that the whole division is experiencing it. & those with only 4H get their turn next season.
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:48 pm to
I'm not gonna rehash the argument for the conference. There are benefits and detractions from either move obviously but my point was that Georgia would be the most affected by this decision and it works in our favor that the status quo prevailed. In the end it's Georgia I root for and I want what's best for them. I personally think the SEC will be just fine with 8 games but regardless I want what is best for Georgia.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:49 pm to
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1. 6-1-2 seeing the West teams 4X in 12 years (as opposed to 2X in 12) gets more teams playing each other - which coaches want....also what FANS want. 2. People want to see 7 MORE SEC vrs. SEC games.....NOT 14 SEC vrs. Podunk College - which is what WILL happen if they don't prohibit that. 3. I honestly don't know what ESPN will do - as in can they force the 9 game setup? 4. As I've ALWAYS pushed, 6-1-2 + 1 "Power 5" game puts everybody @ 10 quality games. 5. The 1 side has 5H/year is an unfortunate drawback to going to 14 teams (a difficult # to schedule around). Teams can work around this & follow the WLOCP by having a neutral site game.....unless you prefer to move the Ga./Fl. game to the school sites (which I'ld be happy to see). However, the positive about that 5H/year setup would be that the whole division is experiencing it. & those with only 4H get their turn next season.


1) no one bitched and moaned as much as you when UGA played LSU twice in a three decade span during the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

2) The conference is requiring all teams to schedule AQ OOC games. And the conference has also changed the scheduling order that the conference gets first pick of who goes where and the schools fill their OOC around that. So... TV will absolutely not be a problem.

3) ummm... what?

4)If everyone does what UGA does, they'll have their 10 top games almost every season (more-so than a 9 conference game matchup which would encourage more conference games against Vandy, Kentucky, and Miss St). It's not like UGA just inventied this type of scheduling. Getting 10 solid games isn't difficult with the 6-1-1 format.

5)I don't want to lose the Jacksonville game. Nobody wants to lose the Jacksonville game. Media and other team's fans want to visit the Jacksonvill game. Why even go somewhere that jeopardizes that game?
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:24 pm to
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Posted by Message roadGator It's official; SEC to remain at 8 games, but must play one other "major" team GT is "major"?


Well they are the only team from Georgia to win a title in the last 30 years. Hell, unless one of Herschel's personalities has eligibility left they're probably the only chance that state has to win a title.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7281 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:32 pm to
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meansonny

1) no one bitched and moaned as much as you when UGA played LSU twice in a three decade span during the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

2) The conference is requiring all teams to schedule AQ OOC games. And the conference has also changed the scheduling order that the conference gets first pick of who goes where and the schools fill their OOC around that. So... TV will absolutely not be a problem.

3) ummm... what?

4)If everyone does what UGA does, they'll have their 10 top games almost every season (more-so than a 9 conference game matchup which would encourage more conference games against Vandy, Kentucky, and Miss St). It's not like UGA just inventied this type of scheduling. Getting 10 solid games isn't difficult with the 6-1-1 format.

5)I don't want to lose the Jacksonville game. Nobody wants to lose the Jacksonville game. Media and other team's fans want to visit the Jacksonvill game. Why even go somewhere that jeopardizes that game?


1. I have NEVER said that. Must have me confused with another poster.

2. Where is this written? Only thing I saw on the SEC site was that the 9th game has to be a "Power 5" team (which UGA already has with GT).

3. Can ESPN veto this ruling & force the SEC to go 9 conf. games since that's who's housing the SECNetwork.

4. & getting 10 with a 6-1-2 + "Power 5" 10th does that instantly. Besides, EVERYBODY has to play Miss./MSU/Vandy/Kentucky sometime (@ least 2 of them yearly).

5. Then with the 6-1-2 format, make everybody have a neutral game. It will just be setup as 4H/1N/4A.


& I'm looking out to stop all the nay-sayers for SEC football. & it's going to take time to see which format was the better path to take (which we won't know until 2016 earliest).
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:46 pm to
Well... we know that the current format works (look at current sec success).

We also know that rematches in the conference championship game hurt rankings and make the sec less relevant (see auburn 2004).

The sec does not want to see more vandy versus arkansas games. they would rather see arkansas play an old swac school and see vandy play northwestern. the ratings are there. Top cross division matchups are more the exception as opposed to the norm.

What do you think 'AQ' school means? Automatic Qualifer (ie. Big 5).

And facing a kentucky, winless auburn, or miss state does not get any team closer to 10 respectable games. It is easier to schedule that respectability with a home and home or neutral site OOC.

We can agree to disagree.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7281 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:55 pm to
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meansonny

And facing a kentucky, winless auburn, or miss state does not get any team closer to 10 respectable games. It is easier to schedule that respectability with a home and home or neutral site OOC.

We can agree to disagree.



Trouble is, nobody knows what anybody will be like in the future when those scheduled games are played.

& yes - agree to disagree. As I stated above, we'll just have to wait & see how this all plays out.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:58 pm to
I can probably look across 4 other conferences and pick better consistent matchups than a Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, and Miss State.

But I understand what you mean with your, "you never know" variable.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:03 am to
hasn't it been like 6 years since Alabama has played UGA during the regular season?

Oh that's right.. bridge schedules
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:06 am to
Georgia has played Bama 36 times more than we've played LSU.

Besides... the only 9th conference game that ever matters happens in the ccg.
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:21 am to
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This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 12:23 am
Posted by wrecking crew
Canada
Member since Apr 2014
1108 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:14 am to
so it will take each team from both divisions over a decade to cycle through the entire conference in a home and home
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:08 am to
Everyone just smile and thank all the pro-expansion morons.

I'll be sitting over here on my righteous pedestal.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:07 am to
quote:

It's official; SEC to remain at 8 games, but must play one other "major" teamso it will take each team from both divisions over a decade to cycle through the entire conference in a home and home 


Welcome to the sec, by the way.

So, you are 'that' guy who adds teams to the conference and all of a sudden cares about moving the teams through the schedule 'faster'. If faster was anything more than a superficial issue, you would still be sucking at the tit of Texas in the Big XII.

Faster has never been a focus in the sec until Saban's thinly veiled comments 2 years ago that he hoped would help his recruiting pitch ( that's all he cares about, by the way). His fabricated issue got you hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:24 am to
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Arkansas was also effected by the move.

Instead of another FCS team or low major we scheduled:

2012 Rutgers
2013 @Rutgers
2014 @Texas Tech
2015 Texas Tech
2016 TCU
2017 @TCU
2018 Michigan
2019 @ Michigan
2020 TBD
2021 Texas

Stop blaming the move for your want of a weak OOC schedule.


A&M refrained from making major commitments to major OOC opponents to give the SEC schedule makers flexibility. The fact that A&M had Arky and Oregon scheduled BEFORE the realignment, and added ASU and UCLA AFTER realignment has settled down should tell any rational person all they need to know about A&M's scheduling policy.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7281 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

bmy
It's official; SEC to remain at 8 games, but must play one other "major" team
hasn't it been like 6 years since Alabama has played UGA during the regular season?

Oh that's right.. bridge schedules


FYI, UGA/Ala. was SUPPOSED to be 2012, but that got replaced due to Mizz. joining the group.
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