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Is there any concern about Texas' willingness to be a team player as part of the SEC?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:44 am
What happens when major decision X is not in UTs best interest occurs. Do they just take it, swallow their pride and check their account balances?
Do they immediately become the new power players in the conference?
I am going to predict that they actually exit the conference within the next 15 years and see to go the Notre Dame independent route. Play who they want how they want.
Only X factor of course is television money.
Do they immediately become the new power players in the conference?
I am going to predict that they actually exit the conference within the next 15 years and see to go the Notre Dame independent route. Play who they want how they want.
Only X factor of course is television money.
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:46 am to DiamondDog
What you are saying would not surprise me. The SEC will not allow them to lord over the rest of the conference, of that I am pretty sure.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:47 am to DiamondDog
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:47 am to DiamondDog
Look at their history. It speaks for itself.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:06 am to DiamondDog
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What happens when major decision X is not in UTs best interest occurs. Do they just take it, swallow their pride and check their account balances?
Do they immediately become the new power players in the conference?
Texas can try but they will not go very far. The Big 12 is Texas teams (that Texas can bully) and the rest are average sports programs (except OU). The SEC is mostly the state flagships schools.
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So the SEC schools are playing from a position of power
Texas needs the SEC to stay viable in the new landscape, the SEC does not need Texas.
Just look at the number of SEC teams in the CWS....
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:23 am to DiamondDog
Not really, the SEC has enough schools that arent afraid to stand up to something like that and the conference as a whole does a fairly decent job of taking care of everyone and keeping everybody on the same level.
But they do have a history of thinking they're God's gift to college athletics, see quotes from previous AD's like Deloss Dodds frequently talking down other schools.
From the archives
Football records since that statement was made: ut: 61-51, mizzou: 64-48.
But they do have a history of thinking they're God's gift to college athletics, see quotes from previous AD's like Deloss Dodds frequently talking down other schools.
From the archives
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“We’re going to have good years again,” Dodds promised. “Our bad years are not that bad. Take a school like Missouri. Our bad years are better than their good years. But we’ve created a standard.”
Football records since that statement was made: ut: 61-51, mizzou: 64-48.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:26 am to DiamondDog
Texas is either too powerful or completely powerless depending on which post you read. Wish tRant would make up its mind
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:28 am to DiamondDog
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What happens when major decision X is not in UTs best interest occurs
Texas will have a vote, they'll vote according to their best interest, and the results will be whatever they are. You've all placed too much importance on aggy's butthurt tall tales.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:30 am to DiamondDog
Regarding what you heard from two new fanbases in this conference that are meaningless, here…….don’t listen to them.
Texas rolled the big12 on its back because it let them do it.
Then some programs left, even though some were invited to the sec a LONG time ago……turned down the conference due to fear of competition.
Now they are scared of losing again to Texas.
It’s ALWAYS fear that makes them talk louder.
The sec has bigger balls than any program. It has bigger balls than the ncaa too.
It’ll survive this TEXAS you speak of. The new sec programs didn’t, that’s why they are lashing out
OU and Texas are national champs in our lifetimes. They will add meaningful TVs from those two states.
Texas rolled the big12 on its back because it let them do it.
Then some programs left, even though some were invited to the sec a LONG time ago……turned down the conference due to fear of competition.
Now they are scared of losing again to Texas.
It’s ALWAYS fear that makes them talk louder.
The sec has bigger balls than any program. It has bigger balls than the ncaa too.
It’ll survive this TEXAS you speak of. The new sec programs didn’t, that’s why they are lashing out
OU and Texas are national champs in our lifetimes. They will add meaningful TVs from those two states.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:31 am to DiamondDog
Of course they will act up. They are Texas.
It is like asking if a stripper will pretend to like you if you tip her well. Much like the scorpion that stung the frog carrying it across the river, they cannot help themselves. It is who they are.
What will be interesting is that unlike their previous conferences when Texas throws a hissy fit this time the rest of the SEC will just ignore them and continue about their business. I think once the Texas administration has been swatted on the nose with a rolled up newspaper a few times they will either bolt or learn to be a team player.
It is like asking if a stripper will pretend to like you if you tip her well. Much like the scorpion that stung the frog carrying it across the river, they cannot help themselves. It is who they are.
What will be interesting is that unlike their previous conferences when Texas throws a hissy fit this time the rest of the SEC will just ignore them and continue about their business. I think once the Texas administration has been swatted on the nose with a rolled up newspaper a few times they will either bolt or learn to be a team player.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:20 pm to DiamondDog
Texas NEEDS the SEC and not the other way around and Texas knows it, too.
The SEC powers will not permit them to try and run this conference nor does Texas have the ability to do it even if they tried.
The SEC powers will not permit them to try and run this conference nor does Texas have the ability to do it even if they tried.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:26 pm to GamerAg
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Look at their history. It speaks for itself.
As a SWC and Big 12 member, Texas did everything in line with conference rules. All Big 12 members, including A&M, voted for schools to do whatever they wanted with their Tier 3 rights, including starting their own network. In fact, Texas went to A&M to start a joint network and the aggies declined.
Then, ESPN threw a crazy amount of $ at Texas for the LHN to keep Big 12 schools from joining the Pac. This money has created many endowed professorships that have benefited the academic mission of the university. No university would have turned that down.
If you want to talk about being a bad conference member, that goes to A&M. SEC commissioner talked to Jimbo on the phone before his meltdown press conference about Saban. Jimbo went against his wishes.
Also, the bad actions of A&M have financially wounded all of the other SEC members. The TV partners want 9 SEC conference games and were willing to pay a lot for that content. SEC schools want an expanded playoff before committing to 9 conference games. When A&M had a hissy fit and prematurely exposed Texas and OU joining the SEC, that scuttled playoff expansion talks. All of your schools lost money because A&M had to publicly have a tantrum, again against the wishes of the SEC commissioner.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:29 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:29 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Also, the bad actions of A&M have financially wounded all of the other SEC members. The TV partners want 9 SEC conference games and were willing to pay a lot for that content. SEC schools want an expanded playoff before committing to 9 conference games. When A&M had a hissy fit and prematurely exposed Texas and OU joining the SEC, that scuttled playoff expansion talks. All of your schools lost money because A&M had to publicly have a tantrum, again against the wishes of the SEC commissioner.
Aaaaaand they failed to have the want to play a bowl game. But they will want 1/14th of the revenue.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:30 pm to DiamondDog
The rest of the SEC will keep them in check.
If they don't like it, they can leave.
If they don't like it, they can leave.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:38 pm to bunkerhill
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What you are saying would not surprise me. The SEC will not allow them to lord over the rest of the conference, of that I am pretty sure.
As long as the SEC offices are in Birmingham, Texas will not Lord over the conference. However, if it moves to Anywhere, Texas...
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:39 pm to texag7
Damn, he/she/it would be a fine sub for Bevo leading the team onto the field
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:40 pm to DiamondDog
Texas is in new uncharted territory and they don’t realize it yet. They destroyed two conferences with their arrogance. Money just being a part of it. Texas attitude has always been “we are Texas and everyone else can kiss our arse.” The big difference with them joining the SEC is they won’t have the Texas legislature running interference and bullying other Texas schools for them. Texas has never had to be “just another vote” member of a conference. Ask Arkansas, Nebraska, Missouri and A&M. But watch, within 5 years Texas will be pushing for a new conference taking the top teams of the SEC and dumping the others. Texas fans are already posting on the rant and other places about “who belongs” in the SEC. The latest controversy of a rinky dink “horns down” hand signal is just a typical manifestation of their self entitlement.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:40 pm to GamerAg
quote:Said history:
Look at their history. It speaks for itself.
Beating a&m in everything.
A&M whines about how life is unfair until they just quit and run away.
A&M tells everybody that Texas is the boogeyman to feel better about their own insecurities and shortcomings.
You're right... you really don't have to look further than plain as day history
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:41 pm to All Gas No Brakes
My mind is made up. tu is not and will not be powerful to push around the sec or sec schools. The sec could give a rats tail about the texas legislature forcing other schools to bend the knee.
Is that clear enough. OU and tu will be ordinary in the sec. that’s the level they can obtain.
If either school is afraid of just being an ordinary part of the conference the it’s time to beg the little 12 to let them back in.
Is that clear enough. OU and tu will be ordinary in the sec. that’s the level they can obtain.
If either school is afraid of just being an ordinary part of the conference the it’s time to beg the little 12 to let them back in.
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