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re: Is Steve Spurrier the most influential coach in SEC history?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:44 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:44 pm to RollTide1987
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And who do you think was most responsible for that?
Yes, Bryant brought the wishbone to the SEC, but let's not act like that was his offense. He saw schools from the Big 8 and SWC using it effectively and decided to bring it to Alabama. Bryant wasn't an innovator or an X's and O's type coach. But he sure knew how to coach and get the best from his players.
Who said it was his offense? You're talking about influence in the SEC. Bryant used the Wishbone to literally own the SEC for a decade.
And as far as the comment about Bryant not being an innovator or an Xs or Os coach, that's one of the dumbest remarks I've ever seen a Bama fan make about him. I'm guessing you're too young to have ever seen his teams play, because you're pretty clueless if you actually believe that. I could give you multiple examples, but why don't you show us you're capable of doing your own homework.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 7:55 pm
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:45 pm to RollTide1987
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Before he got to the conference in 1990, we still had multiple schools running their offense out of the wishbone.
Fail quote imo. Which SEC schools were still running the wishbone from 1983-1989? The most prolific and famous SEC wishbone team was Bama from 1971-1981 (hybrid with more I in '82).
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:54 pm to Tidemeister
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Which SEC schools were still running the wishbone from 1983-1989?
Well...to start with, that 1983 Auburn Tigers team that many argue should have won the national title. I think they ran that offense through 1984 when they switched to the I in '85.
And both Vandy and Mississippi State were running it as late as 1990-91.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:08 pm to BamaGradinTn
I'll give you a clue about Bryant as an innovator.
Who were the last two Alabama QBs to have careers of any length in the NFL, either as a backup or a starter? One was a #6 overall first round pick...and it wasn't because he was good at running the Wishbone.
Who were the last two Alabama QBs to have careers of any length in the NFL, either as a backup or a starter? One was a #6 overall first round pick...and it wasn't because he was good at running the Wishbone.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 6:54 pm to BamaGradinTn
Saban.
He also changed how hard coaches had to work. How to recruit. Managed to find creative ways to get around NCAA rules for various advantages. I hate the guy. But I gotta give him credit.
He also changed how hard coaches had to work. How to recruit. Managed to find creative ways to get around NCAA rules for various advantages. I hate the guy. But I gotta give him credit.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:56 pm to mls4bama
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think coach Bryant done more for the sec than any other coach
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Alabama fan
Shocking.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:58 pm to RollTide1987
Steve spurrier is the biggest shite head coach out there and the boys in orange beat his arse all the time! I think our record vs him is like 11-4.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:58 pm to RollTide1987
Why are we discussing football now? Only Bama fans!!! Wow!
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:19 pm to Tygaman
Best I can tell Clemson has a losing record against Spurrier: 6-7.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:19 pm to RollTide1987
I'd love to see Bama run the Wishbone this year.
No one has planned for it in 25 years.
It would be unstoppable given their depth at RB, their RB at QB, and extraordinary talent at WR for the occasional TD pass.
No one has planned for it in 25 years.
It would be unstoppable given their depth at RB, their RB at QB, and extraordinary talent at WR for the occasional TD pass.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:35 pm to RollTide1987
Saban
Bear
Spurrier
Neyland
Pop Dooley
Bear
Spurrier
Neyland
Pop Dooley
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:50 pm to Che Boludo
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I'd love to see Bama run the Wishbone this year.
Hurts certainly has the tools to do it.
Bryant took the Wishbone he learned from Royal...who ran the ball exclusively...and added a passing threat in the mid seventies.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:50 pm to RollTide1987
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Is Steve Spurrier the most influential coach in SEC history? Notice I did not ask if he was the greatest, I merely asked if he was the most influential.
if you're asking in this context - "most influential, in SEC history" - I'd offer it's another coach who's also from Tennessee.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:18 pm to 1801
Summitt is 1 for the SEC without question. She basically started a whole damn sport from scratch.
Neyland may well be the #2 if we are talking about influence-only (and read on before you write this off as being a homer pick). He was an innovator and the coach Knute Rockne cited as being the best in CFB whenever someone would say Rocke was. Neyland also had an enormous influence on both Bear and Spurrier who grew up idolizing Neyland and the Vols (a huge reason why that rivalry was able to come out of nowhere and become so heated when he was at UF). When he wasn't coaching football he was off fighting for the country, was good friends and former teammates with Gen. Omar Bradley, and basically sounds like Paul Bunyon if you start listing his IRL accomplishments. As far as respect from their coaching peers Summitt and Neyland were special.
Today I think Saban is the most influential hands down.
Neyland may well be the #2 if we are talking about influence-only (and read on before you write this off as being a homer pick). He was an innovator and the coach Knute Rockne cited as being the best in CFB whenever someone would say Rocke was. Neyland also had an enormous influence on both Bear and Spurrier who grew up idolizing Neyland and the Vols (a huge reason why that rivalry was able to come out of nowhere and become so heated when he was at UF). When he wasn't coaching football he was off fighting for the country, was good friends and former teammates with Gen. Omar Bradley, and basically sounds like Paul Bunyon if you start listing his IRL accomplishments. As far as respect from their coaching peers Summitt and Neyland were special.
Today I think Saban is the most influential hands down.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
I think it was evolving regardless of Spurrier however he did speed the process up quite a bit. His teams struck fear into their opponents that I haunt seen before or after that.
As a fan of USC I was always fearful of playing Florida. It wasn't would we lose but how bad would we lose.
As a fan of USC I was always fearful of playing Florida. It wasn't would we lose but how bad would we lose.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:29 pm to Jcrew
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Nope. You must have never watched Slyvester Croom coach State to a 9-6 victory in the Liberty Bowl. Much more influential than any other coach.
He showed his true coaching genius during the 3-2 Auburn game. That was one for the ages.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:35 pm to kbrake37
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I think it was evolving regardless of Spurrier however he did speed the process up quite a bit. His teams struck fear into their opponents that I haunt seen before or after that.
Some of that was because Spurrier was notorious for running up the score in an era where that wasn't done and scores were lower in general and honestly in those days UT-UF was the only game in town so to speak. Other SEC programs were having one good year followed by a meh one while UT and UF were riding high -- in terms of athletes both were as close to what Saban and Meyer have been able to do at BAMA and tOSU recruiting-wise as you can get except both were in the same division of the same conference. The SEC and often national championship was decided in early September. Had there been a playoff Tennessee and Florida would've been in a lot of damn CFPs together which would probably make us hate each other even more.
On the flipside both would've gotten spanked by Nebraska in those playoffs (as we both did IRL) before winning it all. Miami and FSU would've made appearances in those years as well.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 10:38 pm to RollTide1987
The answer is Terry Bowden for sure. He showed Saban that midgets can have success in the SEC.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 10:39 pm
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