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Interesting RPI situations for LSU
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:54 am
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:54 am
Now, RPI is far from everything, and the non-RPI factors are going to be in LSU's favor. But their RPI is going to jump all that much the rest of the season.
Per RPI Wizard
IF LSU finishes only losing @ USC and @ UK (win rest) they enter the SECT at 21-10 (14-4) with an RPI of 54.
If they then win their 1st game (vs Vandy) and lose their 2nd (vs UK), they would finish 22-11 with an RPI of 52.
If you take that same situation and add in a road loss @ Arkansas in the regular season, they finish 21-12 (13-5) with an RPI of 60.
Their resume reminds me a lot of Alabama in 2010-2011. Ragged OOC season, played better towards end and really played well in conference play. The biggest difference is LSU gets a lot more SEC Top 100 opportunities in the current SEC than Alabama did in the 2011 SEC West where most teams were awful AND played awful OOC schedules, tanking their RPIs (OM 85, MSU 121, Ark 130, LSU 224, Aub 253)
Alabama 2010-2011
Record (pre-NIT) : 21-11 (12-4)
RPI (pre-NIT) : 80th
SOS : 92nd
vs Top 50 : 2-5
vs Top 100 : 8-8
vs Top 200 : 14-12
vs 200+ : 11-0
LSU 2015-2016
Record : 15-8 (8-2)
RPI : 75th
SOS : 83rd
vs Top 50 : 1-3
vs Top 100 : 6-5
vs Top 200 : 10-8
vs 200+ : 5-0
Per RPI Wizard
IF LSU finishes only losing @ USC and @ UK (win rest) they enter the SECT at 21-10 (14-4) with an RPI of 54.
If they then win their 1st game (vs Vandy) and lose their 2nd (vs UK), they would finish 22-11 with an RPI of 52.
If you take that same situation and add in a road loss @ Arkansas in the regular season, they finish 21-12 (13-5) with an RPI of 60.
Their resume reminds me a lot of Alabama in 2010-2011. Ragged OOC season, played better towards end and really played well in conference play. The biggest difference is LSU gets a lot more SEC Top 100 opportunities in the current SEC than Alabama did in the 2011 SEC West where most teams were awful AND played awful OOC schedules, tanking their RPIs (OM 85, MSU 121, Ark 130, LSU 224, Aub 253)
Alabama 2010-2011
Record (pre-NIT) : 21-11 (12-4)
RPI (pre-NIT) : 80th
SOS : 92nd
vs Top 50 : 2-5
vs Top 100 : 8-8
vs Top 200 : 14-12
vs 200+ : 11-0
LSU 2015-2016
Record : 15-8 (8-2)
RPI : 75th
SOS : 83rd
vs Top 50 : 1-3
vs Top 100 : 6-5
vs Top 200 : 10-8
vs 200+ : 5-0
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:58 am to Cheeky Fellow
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The biggest difference is LSU gets a lot more SEC Top 100 opportunities in the current SEC than Alabama did in the 2011
We also have the number one pick in the draft.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:58 am to Cheeky Fellow
BPI is up at 46th right now. RPI is really missing some key factors the committee takes into account like home vs. away, MOV and playing without a full lineup.
We will certainly get dinged for the early season OOC losses but less so because Hornsby and Victor (two of our best players) werent around. BPI helps take that into account.
We will certainly get dinged for the early season OOC losses but less so because Hornsby and Victor (two of our best players) werent around. BPI helps take that into account.
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:59 am to Swagga
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We also have the number one pick in the draft.
Well, yea, but I wasn't including non-resume reasons LSU would get a nod. But you are right, that will definitely be part of the LSU discussion whether they admit it or not.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:59 am to thunderbird1100
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BPI is up at 46th right now. RPI is really missing some key factors the committee takes into account like home vs. away, MOV and playing without a full lineup.
We will certainly get dinged for the early season OOC losses but less so because Hornsby and Victor (two of our best players) werent around. BPI helps take that into account.
Yea, I agree, as long as LSU finishes at 13-5 or so and wins an SECT game, finishing with an RPI somewhere under 65 I think they should be good.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:59 am to Cheeky Fellow
Alabama trying to dick ride LSU. 
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:00 am to Jack Daniel
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Alabama trying to dick ride LSU.
By talking about a basketball team from 5 years ago that went to the NIT?
Yea buddy.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:08 am to Cheeky Fellow
Even the bracketolists seem to now consider LSU as two separate seasons.
before victor/hornsby and after.
before victor/hornsby and after.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:08 am to bbap
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Even the bracketolists seem to now consider LSU as two separate seasons.
before victor/hornsby and after.
And even with that and their 1st place spot in the SEC they are still listed as basically a #10-#12 seed on every board. Not a lot of room for error.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:10 am to Cheeky Fellow
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And even with that and their 1st place spot in the SEC they are still listed as basically a #10-#12 seed on every board. Not a lot of room for error.
Well that's because you cant completely ignore the before victor/hornsby part of the schedule. If you did lsu would probably be like a 4 seed.
But yes they still have little room for error. It's been that way since the end of the nonconference and is unlikely to change.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:11 am to bbap
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But yes they still have little room for error. It's been that way since the end of the nonconference and is unlikely to change.
I actually think that might help in the long run. They've been under pressure for a month already. They are used to it. Most games have been must wins and they have performed well, so when they get to even bigger must wins it won't be THAT big a difference.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:13 am to Cheeky Fellow
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I actually think that might help in the long run. They've been under pressure for a month already. They are used to it. Most games have been must wins and they have performed well, so when they get to even bigger must wins it won't be THAT big a difference
yeah certainly could end up being beneficial. This week is really big for them. @sc and home to a&m. They can't go 0-2. They have to split.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:19 am to Cheeky Fellow
Refreshing to see a fan of another school talk reasonably about an in-conference foe. Well done, sir. 
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