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If you are interested in educating yourself on MSU's "lost starters,"

Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:44 pm
Here's a good place to start

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On the surface, the reasoning is sound. However, the loss of 15 starters from 2014 is a skewed.

“I know a lot of people think we're going to be a young football team,” MSU coach Dan Mullen said. “I like that people think that, but the fact that we rotate, we play a lot of guys in the course of games, guys have experience.”

It’s more than experience in some circumstances. Mississippi State will upgrade in at least four positions that lost starters last year.

Defensively, Will Redmond takes over at cornerback and Chris Jones will start at defensive line. The duo has already earned preseason accolades on numerous watchlists. ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. ranks Redmond as one of the best senior corners in the country.




Yet, Redmond isn't a "returning starter.

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On the defensive line, Jones is the defense’s only former five-star recruit. No one debates his NFL-potential talent.

He’ll be joined by senior Nelson Adams in replacing P.J. Jones and Kaleb Eulls. Adams finished with more tackles for loss and sacks than P.J. Jones. He also recorded more quarterback hurries than both departing seniors combine.


Yet, neither Jones or Adams are "returning starters."

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Prescott’s offense lost seven starters from last year – another number that tells only half the story. Ross and Fred Brown finished with more receptions and yards (48 catches for 788 yards) than starters Jameon Lewis and Robert Johnson (46 catches for 607 yards).


Yet, neither Ross or Brown are "returning starters."

In all fairness, offensive line is a concern:

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The real issues appear on the offensive line and at tight end.

“We lost three guys last year, but I wouldn’t hesitate to say the guys we have this year aren’t talented,” Prescott said. “They’re not quite as experienced, obviously the guys we just lost were five-year guys, but I think they’re more talented though.”
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:46 pm to
Not interested.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:46 pm to
So they will start off hot and flame out late like always. Good to know. Well I kind of already figured that, but
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:47 pm to
sigh
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33304 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah, but they lose 15 starters
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18004 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:49 pm to
As an Alabama fan, you have nothing to worry about. We play you late in the year.

This is mainly for the LSU and Auburn fans that just believe they are entitled to the win over MSU. I tried to warn them last year.

Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:50 pm to
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I wouldn’t hesitate to say the guys we have this year aren’t talented
.

Prescott basically confirms that your OL isn't talented. Grind [on][OFF].
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:51 pm to
You tried to warn LSU that y'all weren't a guaranteed win last year after losing 21 of 22 in the previous 22 seasons?

K.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:51 pm to
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This is mainly for the LSU . . . fans that just believe they are entitled to the win over MSU. I tried to warn them the last 15 years.



FIFY
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19606 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm to
So who are these great backups that are starting this year's backups?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:52 pm to
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You tried to warn LSU that y'all weren't a guaranteed win last year after losing 21 of 22 in the previous 22 seasons?



I would note that if replay existed in 1999, it would have been 22 in a row.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18004 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:55 pm to
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I would note that if replay existed in 1999, it would have been 22 in a row.



2000 says hi the other way.

Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:55 pm to
It's like that for many teams. Auburn's defense is only returning "6 starters". That doesn't include Carl Lawson (5 Star and former starter), Byron Cowart (5 Star), Tre Williams (5 Star, had significant playing time last year), or Tray Matthews (4 Star, Started for Georgia)
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:58 pm to
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As an Alabama fan, you have nothing to worry about. We play you late in the year. This is mainly for the LSU and Auburn fans that just believe they are entitled to the win over MSU. I tried to warn them last year.
Hey I'm always rooting for ya up until November Hail State
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:59 pm to
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It's like that for many teams. Auburn's defense is only returning "6 starters". That doesn't include Carl Lawson (5 Star and former starter), Byron Cowart (5 Star), Tre Williams (5 Star, had significant playing time last year), or Tray Matthews (4 Star, Started for Georgia)
I that defense sucks this year i'm going to laugh so hard
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:00 pm to
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2000 says hi the other way.



HAHA nope.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33304 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:00 pm to
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I that defense sucks this year i'm going to laugh so hard


We'll be laughing too, don't worry
Posted by AUBorn
Itumpka Youtumpka Wetumpka, AL
Member since Aug 2013
933 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:09 pm to
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State will upgrade in at least four positions that lost starters last year
So Mullen did not field his best players last year?
Posted by BulldogDX
Member since Mar 2011
902 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:06 pm to
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So Mullen did not field his best players last year?


He fielded a mixture of more experienced but less talented and less experienced but more talented guys about equally. Now the starters are both experienced and talented.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29284 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:08 pm to
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This is mainly for the LSU and Auburn fans that just believe they are entitled to the win over MSU.


Baw yall are 2 for 23 in the last 23 games against us....I'll pencil it in as a W still if that is OK with you
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