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That's funny....wait....you're being serious?.....you can't be.
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:28 am to pivey14
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That's funny....wait....you're being serious?.....you can't be.
No, he really is. Thats what we're dealing with here.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:28 am to Alahunter
Not just yet. The Bear had 6 #1's. The biggest fact that most forget is that Bear Bryant was able to completely reinvent his style to keep up with the changing landscape of college football. He went from 3 yrds and a cloud of dust to prolific passers like Namath and Stabler to unveiling the wishbone, winning in whatever style he needed to adjust to. It's yet to be seen if Saban could adjust when the game evolves away from him. Although he has done a pretty good job of squashing the spread fad.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:28 am to DvlsAdvocat
to those who believe that is true.Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:29 am to LsuTool
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The coach that LSU built
Actually it was Michigan State. The Process was patented after MSU upset Ohio State in 1998. His team came back and went 9-2 in '99 before he left for LSU.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:29 am to LsuTool
quote:Not yet.
The coach that built LSU has already surpassed Mr Bryant.
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:29 am to pivey14
Saban is already a better coach. He's revived 2 programs and turned them into powerhouse multi-NC's in just a few years.
With more restrictions and a stronger conference than the bear.
With more restrictions and a stronger conference than the bear.
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:30 am to pivey14
Pretty damn close. Saban has proven he gud. rel gud.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:31 am to RollTide1987
A coach as good as Saban didn't need an LSU or MSU to show how good of a coach he is. He would have eventually made it to a big name school like Alabama and won there.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:32 am to pivey14
Who cares? Bama has the two greatest college football coaches of all-time. How many other teams can say that they've had the two greatest coaches in the history of their sport during the primes of their careers?
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:32 am to 6nmylifetime
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The biggest fact that most forget is that Bear Bryant was able to completely reinvent his style to keep up with the changing landscape of college football
Exactly. That's why I don't subscribe to the thought that he had an advantage coaches don't today. He adjusted what he did, how he coached to stay successful when college ball changed. That's not easy to do for alot of coaches. He was also damn good from the get go. Took Kentucky to an SEC Championship, won at Texas A&M and then revived Bama. Saban is on track, but he's just not quite there yet. I think he could possibly be as good or better, but gotta earn it first.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:34 am to RBWilliams8
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Saban is already a better coach. He's revived 2 programs and turned them into powerhouse multi-NC's in just a few years.
To be fair, Bryant was the last coach to win an outright SEC title at Kentucky.
Could have won the national title except for a last game loss to Tennessee.
They still went on and beat #1 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl though. Imagine if a coach were to do this today
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:34 am to pivey14
saban is already greater than the bear.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:34 am to Alahunter
And Bryant was coaching at a time when college football was going through its fastest transformations. Modern football was in the process of being born when he was coaching.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:38 am to FlukerFlakes
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Saban is already a better coach. He's revived 2 programs and turned them into powerhouse multi-NC's in just a few years.
To be fair, Bryant was the last coach to win an outright SEC title at Kentucky.
Could have won the national title except for a last game loss to Tennessee.
They still went on and beat #1 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl though. Imagine if a coach were to do this today
Don't forget that his first aTm team went 1-9. Two years later they went 9-0-1.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:53 am to 6nmylifetime
My bet is that older fans will say "not so fast" in making the call, while younger fans, I don't know, born in 1980 and after, will lean toward Saban being better.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:53 am to pivey14
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If Saban wins another NC, will Bama fans consider him to be > the Bear?
It depends on the nature of the question.
Coach Bryant brought pride to the state when there was not a whole lot to be proud of.
Nick Saban is a damn good coach.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 12:00 pm to NBamaAlum
Sabans a good coach, but not close to the Bear.
Bear dominated two decades. Saban made coaches quit(Meyer). Bear made entire programs quit(Geogia Tech).
Bear's impact is so much greater and he did for much longer.
Bear dominated two decades. Saban made coaches quit(Meyer). Bear made entire programs quit(Geogia Tech).
Bear's impact is so much greater and he did for much longer.
Posted on 12/3/12 at 12:07 pm to pivey14
no but he is on his way...
Posted on 12/3/12 at 12:17 pm to BhamDore
It's really interesting. Saban's peak is insane but you're right, he really hasn't dominated for that long. However, let me flip it around. Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh only coached 10 seasons in the NFL but were unbelievably dominant during the course of their run. OTOH, Don Shula and Tom Landry coached for much longer at a very high level (33 and 29 seasons respectively) yet their teams never had that dynastic run. I can't even begin to describe to you how difficult it is to have that kind of longevity with one team in the NFL. My question is, which pair of coaches had more impressive tenures: Lombardi and Walsh who completely dominated the NFL but didn't stay around for that long or Shula and Landry who had tremendous longevity but never had a dominant run like the other two coaches had? It seems like most people hold Lombardi and Walsh in higher regard but a case could be made that what Shula and Landry accomplished was just as much if not more difficult than Lombardi and Walsh's feats.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 12:25 pm
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