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re: If Saban had stayed at Miami would LSU be...

Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:18 pm to
No.

Next question.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:19 pm to
Doubtful. 2011 is the only certain one. They won 2007, so that's a moot point. 2008 had 5 losses (4 minus Bama), 2009 had 4 (3 minus Bama.) They didn't even lose to Bama in 2010 (and Arkansas would have won the West that year, actually, assuming they also beat Bama.) And last year...I actually don't know. Had they played ND, they would have won, but Oregon might have been ahead of them even with the late loss.

So they could be two-time defending national champions this year. But they'd already be all but out of the race to win it again, given they have 2 losses and haven't even played Bama yet. At least they'd have a better defense with Landon Collins playing for them.

All this generously assumes they'd beat Bama no matter what. Saban is hardly the only coach capable of beating LSU, so that's a huge assumption.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

uote:
No, Les is a retard


All retards eat grass, but not all grass eaters are retards.


Whatever your point is I don't see, but Les is still a retard
Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by Rabid Tiger
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:21 pm to
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2012- Lost three games


The 2nd game was to Bama, which effectively ended the season. We beat a Saban-less team and we'd be in the SECCG.

Let's be honest....being in the Chicken Bowl tends to give you the IDGAF mentality. This loss didn't bother me.

UGA had a solid defense last year, so who knows how it would've gone in the SECCG, but we would've had a shot at the BCSCG last year.

2008, 2009, 2010 are spot on though.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:24 pm to
If my aunt had balls, would she be my uncle? Sure.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:26 pm to
I tend to think Georgia would have won. They were the 2nd best team in the country last year, imho. But it's entirely speculative. The main problem is that Mett was spotty and there's no guarantee he would have played well enough to beat that defense.
Posted by Rabid Tiger
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:32 pm to
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I tend to think Georgia would have won. They were the 2nd best team in the country last year, imho. But it's entirely speculative. The main problem is that Mett was spotty and there's no guarantee he would have played well enough to beat that defense.


I agree with you here. I think UGA wouldve won the game.

But there's that underlying factor though of how a team plays when so much more is on the line.

We'll never know though.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:36 pm to
Which is true, and LSU did play Bama tough in their biggest regular season game of the season, so they were obviously capable of winning. Thinking they wouldn't win isn't the same thing as thinking they wouldn't have had a good chance to win. It would be silly to discount LSU, their bowl game performance notwithstanding.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:41 pm to
Nick Saban is not a Christian. Did you even know that?
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:42 pm to


Posted by WITNESS23
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:51 pm to
We definitely win 2 IMO
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:52 pm to
Meyer wouldn't have ran off like a woos. Les had to play him every year also. The 2011 NC was probably the only thing we loss. 2005-2007 we got one CC and NC Saban's first year in. 2008-2010 LSU had issues that had nothing to do with UA.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:56 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/25/13 at 12:57 am
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:57 pm to
2011 and ?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 12:03 am to
quote:

There are a few players i think we would have gotten out of alabama like trent richardson so it's possible.


Trent Richardson is from Florida.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 12:06 am to
Hell, RB's hasn't been the problem anyway. The #1 thing, hands down, from 2008 till at least last season, is QB development. This has to do with recruiting and staff hires...which by default rests on Coach's shoulders.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 2:06 am to
probably not

other than 2011 LSU's primary problem has not been Alabama. Losing other games against teams like Florida and even Arkansas or Ole Miss has been the issue.

Obviously everything changes everything. Meyer would probably have stayed at Florida longer (assuming he did a better job of running the asylum without Saban to compete against than he did with Saban in the opposite division).
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 2:23 am to
You fo realize that even with Saban at UA, LSU is a mulligan game and 1:30 from being it. And Bama is that close to not having won the SEC West in 4 years.
This post was edited on 10/25/13 at 2:28 am
Posted by tiger4178
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 2:37 am to
This is nothing but premature rhetoric...

Les beats Nick next month, they are tied 4-4 head to head...

Les lands the recruiting class most expect him to, the balance of power shifts more in his direction.

This shite is far from over, their is no doubt whatsoever that Les, all his goofiness aside, could very well end up winning these two's battle.
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