re: If Christian McCaffrey doesn&#39;t win the Heisman, then we need to..

Posted by Bham4Tide

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:57 am to Grovewater

Solid Melt.

I'll give you an upvote.

Posted by Bham4Tide

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:22 am to Grovewater

But, but, CBS has Watson winning!

What are you going to do if that happens??????

Posted by stat19

Member since Feb 2011

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:26 am to Grovewater

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Grovewater

Numbers and how to effectively use them in contrast and comparison scenarios always seems to baffle art majors.

You just showed your ignorance on several layers of things - football and statistics being the two most obvious.

Let me guess... dental student or comm major right?

Posted by TNTiger1984

Cuba

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:33 am to Grovewater

Who cares who wins the Heisman...... The Heisman is a curse.

Tell me some Heisman winners that are stud NFL stars?

Winston/Mariota..... unknown yet but doing well in the First year

Manzel/Griffith.... running JOKE's

Newton..... Best Heisman winner in NFL

Ingram.... he is earning paycheck still

Bradford.... earning paycheck done nothing impressive

Tebow... NOT IN LEAGUE

Troy Smith/ Leinart.... Not in league

Bush... still earning nice paychecks/Super Bowl ring

Palmer... still earning paycheck Made a nice career.

My point is , winning the Heisman means nothing anymore. SO WHO CARES

This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 7:33 am

Posted by GurleyGirl

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:33 am to RTR America

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And the defenses he's played against are considerably better than the creampuffs Henry has gashed open.

Ummm

Yep, to me this is a significant of an objective analysis. Henry got his stats against significantly tougher defenses. I absolutely love McCaffrey for the type of player/student athlete he is but I would have to vote for Henry as a workhorse in a very tough league.

Posted by 257WBY

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:42 am to cajunbama

Dalvin Cook averaging two more yards per carry than Henry and McCaffrey looks good.
Both players carried their team, but McCaffrey did come up with about 1,500 more yards. Some years, there isn't a great player. This year, there's about 6.

Posted by tivey6301

Member since Jul 2011

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:50 am to Grovewater

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Derek Henry is the 3rd best running back in the SEC.

Who were the other 2 running backs this year that beat Walker's record?

This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 8:35 am

Posted by imjustafatkid

Alabama

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:54 am to Grovewater

The Ole Miss Victory Melt continues!

Posted by MartyMoose09

Florence, AL

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:57 am to Grovewater

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A degree from the school who's football team I support

A degree from ole miss

Posted by DynastyDawg

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:02 am to RTR America

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As much as I love Mariota as a Titans fan you could easily make the case Coop was the best player in CFB last year.

I think Henry should win it, but no.

Posted by olemc999

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:02 am to Grovewater

This season Henry broke a Herschel Walker SEC record and tied a Tim Tebow SEC record.

Posted by nicholastiger

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:03 am to Grovewater

Either Fournette and Henry are really good or the run defense in the SEC sucks because to have 2 RB's near Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson is unheard of.

I wouldn't say it's a team award, Manziel won it.

It will be close again like it was for Ingram and Gerhart. My guess is a lot of votes could have been cast before Sat's games and if that is the case Henry will edge him again. The one thing that could hurt Henry is Watson taking some of his votes away from that area.

Posted by Rhodes_leading_home

Member since Aug 2015

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:03 am to Grovewater

Henry compared to LF7

Henry has around 65 some odd more carries than LF7 but yet only out rushes him in total yards by 245yrds

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Posted by Patton

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:04 am to DynastyDawg

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but no.

Actually, Yes

Posted by DynastyDawg

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:15 am to Patton

Here are the Stats from 2014:

Marcus Mariota

Passing

304/445 - 68.3% - 4454 Yds - 42 TD - 4 Ints

Rushing

135 - 770 Yds - 15 TD

Amari Cooper

Receiving

124 - 1727 Yds - 16 TD

While those are some pretty gaudy receiving numbers, he wasn't the best player in College Football, and there's really no argument to be made. He is a fricking beast, and probably one of the most likable players to ever come out of Alabama, but that doesn't mean he was the best player in the country.

This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 8:16 am

Posted by HottyToddy7

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:18 am to Grovewater

The only stat the McCaffrey wins is Total yards because he returns kicks. That's it.

Posted by 5thTiger

Member since Nov 2014

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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:20 am to Grovewater

Henry is the better running back, but McCaffrey had a better season. Henry's game is so 1 dimensional it hurts.

McCaffrey literally did it all, and is the best at doing everything in NCAA history.

Theres nothing wrong with saying Henry might be a better running back, but McCaffrey is a better football player and had a better season.