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re: If an Alabama DA had turned those kids loose, what would you have said?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:06 pm to airfernando
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:06 pm to airfernando
quote:So you like the prose?
What a drama queen. This case was not a big deal, regardless of what state.
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:07 pm to coachcrisp
No matter what, they'd still end up with dozens of piss bottles in their yard
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:08 pm to coachcrisp
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coachcrisp
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Sorry if I cursed at anyone...I was just calling bull shite on the reply...and you know it's bull shite, too...and that's ok.
No. No I don't. I don't presume to know how anyone here thinks. Mainly because I'm somewhat of an open minded guy. Folks usually tell or show me how they feel. Not the other way around.
I know Psychology Majors with less self assurance in diagnosing anonymous internet personas per the DSM V than you do. Trust me when I say that you're proving who you are far more than you're "outing," the mindset of anyone here.
It's humorously trivial from my perspective. But don't let that stop you from flailing at these windmills brah.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:11 pm to coachcrisp
Wouldn't really care. Especially if the guy could prove he didn't steal the gun.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:18 pm to coachcrisp
The fact that you're trying to defend this travesty makes you part of the problem.
This isn't about Bama and LSU. This is about a penal code that prefers the rich and/or talented. If you're really good at football, the rules don't apply to you.
Doesn't matter if this happened in Louisiana, Alabama, or Alaska, the blatant inequity in the justice system is the same.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:22 pm to pvilleguru
You dont need to ask a hypothetical. Pretty sure Bama players have been arrested in Alabama before and they were convicted or pled guilty and the charges were never dropped.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:28 pm to coachcrisp
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they're cursed at and told they're lying.
I haven't seen this anywhere, so quit making shite up, assface.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:58 pm to Guava Jelly
quote:Oh please show me where I was defending the DA's decision. In fact, I disagree with it.....and your wailing about the terrible injustices in the legal system is also a load of shite..grow up.
The fact that you're trying to defend this travesty makes you part of the problem.
This isn't about Bama and LSU. This is about a penal code that prefers the rich and/or talented. If you're really good at football, the rules don't apply to you.
Doesn't matter if this happened in Louisiana, Alabama, or Alaska, the blatant inequity in the justice system is the same.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:28 pm to coachcrisp
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Oh please show me where I was defending the DA's decision. In fact, I disagree with it.
The fact that you started a thread about LSU fans hypothetically reacting differently if the geography were different is indicative of your feelings on the subject.
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your wailing about the terrible injustices in the legal system is also a load of shite..grow up.
You don't have the slightest idea of who I am as a person, the subject of my education, or my chosen career path... So you really don't have the slightest conception of how genuine I am about my concerns. To quote the fine cinematic work The Big Lebowski, "You're out of your element."
You sneer and finger point and question others' motives behind the thin veil of message board anonymity... Yet I'm the one who should grow up.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:34 pm to coachcrisp
No matter what state, I just want them on the field in November. 
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:39 pm to Guava Jelly
Y4umad
I think it would look good on a car tag.
I think it would look good on a car tag.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:34 pm to coachcrisp
DAs can be bought just the same no matter where they are from. There is nothing showing he is even a football fan to care for LSU or from a smaller state school.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:26 pm to Guava Jelly
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This is about a penal code that prefers the rich and/or talented. If you're really good at football, the rules don't apply to you.
Doesn't matter if this happened in Louisiana, Alabama, or Alaska, the blatant inequity in the justice system is the same.
What if I told you there were shades of gray? Yes, it's an example of our fricked up judicial system, but I still agree in principal with the DA that these kids shouldn't have their lives ruined over this. That quote about AC was beyond idiotic, but DA's are usually given some latitude in considering extenuating circumstances when pursuing punishment.
I never had a huge problem with this victimless crime, and it's not because I support Alabama as I'm sure some of you will be quick to claim. I live in a state where weed is legal, still don't understand why it isn't on a federal level(btw, I always liked and supported TM7, glad he was able to overcome his vices). Now the gun was stolen and Cam knew that or should have known that when he bought it on the streets for $100, but still, what is the fricking big deal? What would a just sentence be in your eyes for kids being dumbasses and smoking weed in the park with a gun in the car? I'm way more embarrassed by those dumbasses that were robbing students on campus with bb guns a few years ago, or that we took that woman beater from Georgia. THAT is embarrassing beyond words- those crimes actually had victims.
To summarize I agree this story illuminates the role of privilege in sentencing, but I disagree the travesty is in Cam's light sentence. It is in the overly harsh sentences given to the kid in the hood with no one in his corner, victims of minimum sentencing legislation and shitty politics that has incarcerated two generations of black men. For you LSU and Auburn fans suddenly expressing great interest in this issue, I welcome you to the cause and would urge you to take a close look at a politician's stances on criminal justice reform before giving him/her your vote. This is a serious issue in this country as our incarceration rate is a goddamn embarrassment for a so called 'free' country.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:39 pm to thatthang
The big fricking deal is it is against the law. Your ideas of what is right and wrong do not matter. Yes I agree this country is not as "free" as others, but you cannot please everyone. What you agree with in regards to possessing illegal firearms are different than the majority of the country. What matters is the kids broke the law and there are precedents set which should be followed. I understand about social inequality, but that is not what this case is about. These kids I am sure were explained to them what is at stake for their future by plenty of role models at the collegiate and high school level.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:45 am to topcat88
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The big fricking deal is it is against the law. Your ideas of what is right and wrong do not matter.
Everyone else here is offering their unsolicited personal opinions on the alleged crime, so I offered mine. Your opinions on what happened and who may or may not have committed the crimes in question are equally irrelevant. Plus you were already getting an early start on your whining in another thread about their suspensions, surely you would welcome a discourse on the seriousness of the harm caused by their actions as it relates to such a suspension?
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I understand about social inequality, but that is not what this case is about
Then what is it about? If it is not about one class of citizens getting preferential treatment over another, can you just admit this is about LSU and Alabama to you?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:14 am to thatthang
OP got roasted in here. It'd be nice if people learned from his mistake but they won't.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:38 am to coachcrisp
I would have said..."wow, the system sure is corrupt in Alabama"...instead, I'm saying "wow, the system sure is corrupt in Louisiana".
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:39 am to Guava Jelly
quote:You're really one dumb bastard. My reference was to the fact that LSU fans couldn't say that because they were in Alabama, they got preferential treatment.
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Oh please show me where I was defending the DA's decision. In fact, I disagree with it.
The fact that you started a thread about LSU fans hypothetically reacting differently if the geography were different is indicative of your feelings on the subject.
quote:Your posts are a clear picture of what type of egotistical, self righteous pseudo intellectual you are...and yeah, you need to grow up.
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your wailing about the terrible injustices in the legal system is also a load of shite..grow up.
You don't have the slightest idea of who I am as a person, the subject of my education, or my chosen career path... So you really don't have the slightest conception of how genuine I am about my concerns. To quote the fine cinematic work The Big Lebowski, "You're out of your element."
You sneer and finger point and question others' motives behind the thin veil of message board anonymity... Yet I'm the one who should grow up.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:39 am to thatthang
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disagree the travesty is in Cam's light sentence
This isn't a light sentence. There is no sentence here at all. That is the travesty in this situation.
I wholeheartedly agree that the "criminal rehabilitation" system is horribly skewed against the poor (I think this is a class issue more than a race one. But that's another conversation). But that doesn't detract from the fact that time and again a certain strata of society have get out of jail free cards when the rest of us don't.
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welcome you to the cause and would urge you to take a close look at a politician's stances on criminal justice reform before giving him/her your vote. This is a serious issue in this country as our incarceration rate is a goddamn embarrassment for a so called 'free' country.
This is precisely the reason I chose my career path. Posters on this board can decry the motives of people crying foul on this issue.
But again that doesn't take away from the fact that this is yet another instance of the rules not applying to the privileged and talented.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 6:41 am
Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:48 am to coachcrisp
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Your posts are a clear picture of what type of egotistical, self righteous pseudo intellectual you are...and yeah, you need to grow up.
So you've resorted to hurling insults on a message board... And I am still the one who needs to grow up?
Oh, the irony.
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